Heresay started a thread asking if the changes to the new redbook rules are impacting coach turnover. I have tried to read up on the new rules, but I am not sure I have a good enough understanding of the changes. Can anyone articulate what are the pluses and minuses of the changes and how it is impacting the coaches?

 

If I blow my nose at school...I need 3 pages of paperwork to justify the Kleenex.

Why would this rule impact coaching? Am I being naïve? If this is just a matter of accounting for the money, why would anyone balk at this?

It's just more hoops to jump though. I think the basis of the belief that it affects coaching is, it's more of a headache for them to deal with and if they are ready for retirement they may just go ahead and retire due to more effort being required, and some coaches may think it's just too much on top of what they already deal with for the money they make to coach and may leave the coaching profession.

 

You take someone who is tired of being tired and place a new policy that changes the way they do business, they just may say to hell with it and walk away.

If I blow my nose at school...I need 3 pages of paperwork to justify the Kleenex.

 

And you better not give one of those to an assistant unless it's part of the uniform.

It's just more hoops to jump though. I think the basis of the belief that it affects coaching is, it's more of a headache for them to deal with and if they are ready for retirement they may just go ahead and retire due to more effort being required, and some coaches may think it's just too much on top of what they already deal with for the money they make to coach and may leave the coaching profession.

 

You take someone who is tired of being tired and place a new policy that changes the way they do business, they just may say to hell with it and walk away.

 

I don't think you can solely place the blame of coaches walking on Red Book. It's Red Book on top of all the other training necessary to be a coach. Most just want to coach. They are regulating the heck out of every aspect.

Someone correct me if wrong, but I think these rules reach beyond athletics and boosters organizations. Beechwood does a 6th grade trip to Washington DC. In the past there were a number of different fundraisers done to help students pay for the trip. They no longer do fundraisers and said they are not allowed to do fundraisers for the trip. I am guessing they can't do the fundraisers because of these rules. If true, does that mean the rules impact raising money for academic trips, the band, academic clubs, etc.?

 

Our middle school did the same thing for a DC trip.

Mid last year, we were told about the way it worked having to change.

Use to be that if a family worked a # of hours they would get fund raising credit for it. (I think a % of the funds raised). Then there would be individual fund raisers where the student go credit for what they raised.

 

Now, it all goes to a general fund for everyone.

 

Completely a disincentive to the 8th grader who is told if they work hard they can raise the money to go.

 

I'm sure it's not the intent, but just another side effect that is causing the decimation of a learned work ethic. (topic for another board/thread).

 

No longer have middle schoolers so I don't know what, if anything, they are doing now...

Our middle school did the same thing for a DC trip. Mid last year' date=' we were told about the way it worked having to change. Use to be that if a family worked a # of hours they would get fund raising credit for it. (I think a % of the funds raised). Then there would be individual fund raisers where the student go credit for what they raised. Now, it all goes to a general fund for everyone. Completely a disincentive to the 8th grader who is told if they work hard they can raise the money to go. I'm sure it's not the intent, but just another side effect that is causing the decimation of a learned work ethic. (topic for another board/thread). No longer have middle schoolers so I don't know what, if anything, they are doing now...[/quote']

I know what you mean. We learned the adverse effects of this rule when our daughter was fund raising for volleyball camp 2 years ago. We taught her and explained how the hard work would payoff by negating her cost. Well, she and 2 other girls worked every event and raised almost 90% of the money. Over 10 girls on the team did not help at all and when it came time to go to camp, the money that was primarily raised by 3 girls was divided amongst the entire team. Do you think she worked any more events since then?