Woah! For a minute there, I thought you might really know me! Dan is my ex-husband's name. He would definitely tell you that I have an evil twin inside me.

 

:lol2:

 

Oh geez... sorry about that. Nope, don't know him. Just tossing out a little "Fatal Attraction" in response to the claims of the evil crazy lady.

I don't know... a normal dude with an alter-ego doesn't seem all that necessary. That said, I have a friend who used to go around telling people his name was Chip Saunders (it wasn't), that he owned a bar called Skeeter's (he didn't), and that his greatest achievement in life was that he owned a boat and "not one but two jetskis" (he doesn't). He did it just because he thought it was funny to tell people to go to his bar and give them non-specific directions to a place that didn't exist.

 

Heck, I have two personalities on this site alone. There's normal, affable Getslow who posts basketball game updates and Christmas songs... then there's the embittered grump who hates Randy Parker.

 

Yeah but saying those things to mess with others or to try to impress them is different than acting out an alter ego full time. I don't know the guy but it doesn't sound like he was that serious about it, he was more less joking. If you listen to some of the interviews with some of these celebs they are pretty serious about it, their alter ego's are no joke and they play them out for what they are worth (ie. Slim Shady and others). It's also not pretending to be another person altogether like your friend but rather another personality instead. Sounds to me like your buddy just liked to mess around with people, not live a double life.

And one last thing I have found interesting since I've saw it. Doesn't look to be faked as it is a dude who just recorded the video with his phone recording the tv. It also shows him pulling it up on the DVR so it came from the actual broadcast. He brings up the point it may be contacts, but if so where did the contacts go and when and how did he take them out that quick? Kind of creepy stuff really if you think about it in the context of what I am saying about this stuff.....

 

 

 

With the guy suggesting something is weird with his eyes, it does appears to be when viewing with that in mind, but I watched this time and again looking for a logical explanation, omitting the guy's suggestion from my mind, and the more I see it, it looks like at that very second he is either blinking, or his eyes are almost shut, and the light is shining on his perhaps moist eyelids creating the effect, but all it is is his eyelids glowing from stage lights, or he's looking down making the stage lights catch more of his eyelids.

With the guy suggesting something is weird with his eyes, it does appears to be when viewing with that in mind, but I watched this time and again looking for a logical explanation, omitting the guy's suggestion from my mind, and the more I see it, it looks like at that very second he is either blinking, or his eyes are almost shut, and the light is shining on his perhaps moist eyelids creating the effect, but all it is is his eyelids glowing from stage lights, or he's looking down making the stage lights catch more of his eyelids.

 

I thought about that as well and thought it could possibly be reflection but the more I watch it looks like his whole face sort of morphs with the eyes. Also we can speculate it is light reflection but there is no way to prove it as it's impossible to know 100% for sure either way. Also not sure how much his eye lids would glow, I could see eye shine possibly giving those effects but not with closed eyes.

He still does some occultic stuff, even down to his Roca Wear designs. The notion that "the devil is a lie" is not a surprising remark coming from an occultist or even a satanist because they do not necessarily believe in heaven or hell or even God/Satan. Their belief is that we are our own gods and we can determine our own path. A lot of Jay-Z's views are on life/religion/spirit are the same as Alistair Crowley in which Jay-Z has obviously taken a lot of influence from.

 

So why would he deny it and scoff at those who he feels insults him for being successful? Why wouldn't he just own it? Especially since he has been claiming supreme since 1996?

So why would he deny it and scoff at those who he feels insults him for being successful? Why wouldn't he just own it? Especially since he has been claiming supreme since 1996?

 

Well stating the devil is a lie is pretty much admitting it. Christians obviously believe in Heaven/Hell, Angels/Demons, God/Satan. For him to say it isn't real and it's just a lie obviously indicates he does not share the same beliefs as Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc. So then what is his beliefs? He could be agnostic or athiest which is very much possible and probable, but I still think he's into the occult stuff as well. Makes sense considering if you are an athiest there is no God to answer to so you can do as you will. Same way Crowley chased after all that dark magic through the years, he didn't care what he was doing he didn't think he had to answer to anyone but himself. He could also use "the devil is a lie" to mean that the devil may not necessarily be as bad as guy as what he gets the wrap to be and perhaps it should be vice versa. There's a lot of people who have the belief that Lucifer is the true god and the God of Abraham is not. Not sure what Jay believes but I think his reference with that could go one of those two directions (most likely the Crowley view of no God/Satan).

 

 

 

As for the occultic stuff its evidence is everywhere and we've discussed a lot of it in detail in this thread. He may just be doing it all for show but there is no doubt some of his references (through clothing, jestures, lyrics, etc.) are occultic.

Well stating the devil is a lie is pretty much admitting it. Christians obviously believe in Heaven/Hell, Angels/Demons, God/Satan. For him to say it isn't real and it's just a lie obviously indicates he does not share the same beliefs as Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc. So then what is his beliefs? He could be agnostic or athiest which is very much possible and probable, but I still think he's into the occult stuff as well. Makes sense considering if you are an athiest there is no God to answer to so you can do as you will. Same way Crowley chased after all that dark magic through the years, he didn't care what he was doing he didn't think he had to answer to anyone but himself. He could also use "the devil is a lie" to mean that the devil may not necessarily be as bad as guy as what he gets the wrap to be and perhaps it should be vice versa. There's a lot of people who have the belief that Lucifer is the true god and the God of Abraham is not. Not sure what Jay believes but I think his reference with that could go one of those two directions (most likely the Crowley view of no God/Satan).

 

 

 

As for the occultic stuff its evidence is everywhere and we've discussed a lot of it in detail in this thread. He may just be doing it all for show but there is no doubt some of his references (through clothing, jestures, lyrics, etc.) are occultic.

 

 

 

All right. I still love Jay though. Just like I still love FKYW.

Just one section with the chorus, there's a lot of stuff in there you can take certain ways if you wanted to. I realize it's likely nothing but in regards to this thread and the discussion I do find it worthy to discuss.

 

You sure she's not just referring to Chris Brown?

You sure she's not just referring to Chris Brown?

 

He is a monster but not the one I think she's singing about in that one. Doesn't sound like a tune about tainted love but rather the positve/negatives of fame. The positives is fame and wealth, but the negatives is you pretty much drive yourself mad (or something drives you mad).

All right. I still love Jay though. Just like I still love FKYW.

 

Hey man it's all love, I still got nothing but love for you PP.

 

 

Just trying to drop some knowledge my man, that's all.

 

 

 

 

Like I've said before I still listen to Jay-Z I can still tolerate him and his talents but I definitely think he's into some dark stuff.

Just saw this, kindy of freaky......

 

 

 

 

 

 

(the original video I wanted to post was disabled for embedding so had to settle for this)

Here's another video with original footage and you can notice it there as well at around the 2:40 mark.....

 

When it is zoomed it looked like he had eye lids on the top and bottom!