Bengal Draft needs...

[Content1]

What do you think they are and who would you select to fill the need if you were in the hotseat assuming they're available?

[UK#1fanisback]

Tackle draft Howie Longs son, safety the Texas kid, running back Lacy, Ball or the NC back.

[Blue Magic]

RB - Eddie Lacy, Safety - Ken Vaccaro, OT - I have no idea.

[Content1]

Offensive Tackle prospects:

 

Top 20 OTs

 

RANK PLAYER POS. POS. RANK SCHOOL CLASS HT. WT. PROJ. ROUND

1 *Luke Joeckel OT 1 Texas A&M Jr 6-6 306 1

3 Eric Fisher OT 2 Central Michigan Sr 6-7 306 1

5 Lane Johnson OT 3 Oklahoma Sr 6-6 303 1

22 *D.J. Fluker OT 4 Alabama rJr 6-5 339 1

24 *Menelik Watson OT 5 Florida State Jr 6-5 310 1-2

49 Terron Armstead OT 6 Arkansas-Pine Bluff Sr 6-5 306 2

52 *Justin Pugh OT 7 Syracuse rJr 6-5 307 2

55 Kyle Long OT 8 Oregon Sr 6-6 313 2

93 *David Bakhtiari OT 9 Colorado rJr 6-4 299 3

109 Vinston Painter OT 10 Virginia Tech rSr 6-4 306 3-4

126 David Quessenberry OT 11 San Jose State rSr 6-5 302 4

131 Brennan Williams OT 12 North Carolina Sr 6-6 318 4

134 Dallas Thomas OT 13 Tennessee rSr 6-5 306 4-5

146 Jordan Mills OT 14 Louisiana Tech Sr 6-5 316 4-5

163 Xavier Nixon OT 15 Florida Sr 6-6 321 5

171 Reid Fragel OT 16 Ohio State Sr 6-8 308 5-6

182 *Chris Faulk OT 17 LSU rJr 6-6 331 5-6

202 Ricky Wagner OT 18 Wisconsin rSr 6-6 308 6

217 Garrett Gilkey OT 19 Chadron State Sr 6-6 318 6-7

247 Jason Weaver OT 20 Southern Mississippi rSr 6-5 313 7

 

ILB Top 20 prospects:

 

RANK PLAYER POS. POS. RANK SCHOOL CLASS HT. WT. PROJ. ROUND

31 Manti Te'o ILB 1 Notre Dame Sr 6-1 241 1-2

46 *Kevin Minter ILB 2 LSU rJr 6-0 246 2

84 Kiko Alonso ILB 3 Oregon rSr 6-4 238 3

104 A.J. Klein ILB 4 Iowa State Sr 6-1 250 3-4

124 Jon Bostic ILB 5 Florida Sr 6-1 245 4

142 Kevin Reddick ILB 6 North Carolina Sr 6-2 243 4-5

157 Nico Johnson ILB 7 Alabama Sr 6-2 248 5

183 Keith Pough ILB 8 Howard rSr 6-2 239 5-6

226 Jonathan Stewart ILB 9 Texas A&M Sr 6-4 242 6-7

252 Steve Beauharnais ILB 10 Rutgers Sr 6-1 240 7

268 Brandon Hepburn ILB 11 Florida A&M rSr 6-3 240 7-FA

283 Sam Barrington ILB 12 South Florida Sr 6-1 246 7-FA

305 Vince Williams ILB 13 Florida State rSr 6-1 233 7-FA

314 Will Compton ILB 14 Nebraska rSr 6-1 230 7-FA

321 Dan Molls ILB 15 Toledo Sr 6-0 238 7-FA

350 Albert Rosette ILB 16 Nevada rSr 6-2 231 7-FA

353 Nick Clancy ILB 17 Boston College rSr 6-2 237 ––

401 Steve Greer ILB 18 Virginia rSr 6-0 231 ––

437 Kenny Demens ILB 19 Michigan rSr 6-1 245 ––

464 Bruce Taylor ILB 20 Virginia Tech rSr 6-1 237 ––

 

Top 20 Safety prospects:

 

RANK PLAYER POS. POS. RANK SCHOOL CLASS HT. WT. PROJ. ROUND

38 *Matt Elam SS 1 Florida Jr 5-10 208 1-2

43 Jonathan Cyprien SS 2 Florida International Sr 6-0 217 2

92 JJ Wilcox SS 3 Georgia Southern Sr 6-0 213 3

108 Shamarko Thomas SS 4 Syracuse Sr 5-9 213 3-4

111 Shawn Williams SS 5 Georgia Sr 6-0 213 3-4

153 Duke Williams SS 6 Nevada Sr 5-11 203 5

189 Zeke Motta SS 7 Notre Dame Sr 6-2 213 6

218 Robert Lester SS 8 Alabama Sr 6-1 220 6-7

239 Earl Wolff SS 9 North Carolina State rSr 5-11 209 7

266 Keelan Johnson SS 10 Arizona State rSr 6-0 209 7-FA

273 Cooper Taylor SS 11 Richmond rSr 6-5 228 7-FA

303 Ray Ray Armstrong SS 12 Miami (Fla.) rSr 6-3 216 7-FA

311 Jawanza Starling SS 13 Southern California Sr 6-1 202 7-FA

325 Don Jones SS 14 Arkansas State rSr 5-11 191 7-FA

383 Duron Harmon SS 15 Rutgers Sr 6-0 196 ––

409 Alonzo Tweedy SS 16 Virginia Tech rSr 6-1 197 ––

431 Orhian Johnson SS 17 Ohio State rSr 6-3 215 ––

452 Kemal Ishmael SS 18 UCF Sr 5-11 201 ––

480 Jahleel Addae SS 19 Central Michigan rSr 5-10 195 ––

499 Jeff Heath SS 20 Saginaw Valley Sr 6-1 209 ––

 

Top 20 RBs:

 

RANK PLAYER POS. POS. RANK SCHOOL CLASS HT. WT. PROJ. ROUND

35 *Eddie Lacy RB 1 Alabama rJr 5-11 231 1-2

56 Johnathan Franklin RB 2 UCLA rSr 5-10 205 2

60 Montee Ball RB 3 Wisconsin Sr 5-11 214 2

67 *Le'Veon Bell RB 4 Michigan State Jr 6-2 230 2-3

73 *Giovani Bernard RB 5 North Carolina rSo 5-9 202 2-3

89 Andre Ellington RB 6 Clemson rSr 5-9 199 3

99 Christine Michael RB 7 Texas A&M Sr 5-10 220 3-4

112 Stepfan Taylor RB 8 Stanford Sr 5-9 214 3-4

125 *Joseph Randle RB 9 Oklahoma State Jr 6-0 204 4

139 *Marcus Lattimore RB 10 South Carolina Jr 5-11 221 4-5

145 Mike Gillislee RB 11 Florida Sr 5-11 208 4-5

151 Kenjon Barner RB 12 Oregon rSr 5-9 196 4-5

160 Kerwynn Williams RB 13 Utah State Sr 5-8 195 5

180 *Michael Ford RB 14 LSU rJr 5-10 210 5-6

187 *Jawan Jamison RB 15 Rutgers rSo 5-8 203 6

192 *Cierre Wood RB 16 Notre Dame rJr 5-11 213 6

200 Zac Stacy RB 17 Vanderbilt Sr 5-9 216 6

212 Latavius Murray RB 18 UCF rSr 6-3 223 6-7

233 *Knile Davis RB 19 Arkansas rJr 6-0 227 7

261 Onterio McCalebb RB 20 Auburn Sr 5-10 168 7-FA

 

per CBSSports.com

[Hellbird]

Bengals needs in the draft are the same needs they had in Free Agency but chose to ignore.

[Content1]

I like Pugh from Syracuse and think he'll be there if they go OT in the 1st round. If available I'd jump on Fisher like white on rice from Central Michigan. Don't see it though. Painter from VA Tech may still be there in the 2nd round!

 

If they go OL in the first I'd get Alonso from Oregon at ILB in the second if he's available. This kid is a beast with a lot of upside. AJ Klein is a good fall back!

 

Lester from Alabama at SS would be a god fit and will light a nice fire under other Bama players on this squad.

 

RB position will become more important than safety. Gruden really dropped the ball on not running more last season. They may go RB in the first round, if so, flip a coin between Lacy and Bell. It's time to slow the game down with a 225 plus pound punisher who'll get you 4 yards a run.

 

Just my 2 cents gang. Hope they choose wisely. The organization has placed a lot on this draft due to their lack of addressing need in off season pickups.

[ESPNdeux]

Top 20 Safety prospects:

 

RANK PLAYER POS. POS. RANK SCHOOL CLASS HT. WT. PROJ. ROUND

38 *Matt Elam SS 1 Florida Jr 5-10 208 1-2

43 Jonathan Cyprien SS 2 Florida International Sr 6-0 217 2

92 JJ Wilcox SS 3 Georgia Southern Sr 6-0 213 3

108 Shamarko Thomas SS 4 Syracuse Sr 5-9 213 3-4

111 Shawn Williams SS 5 Georgia Sr 6-0 213 3-4

153 Duke Williams SS 6 Nevada Sr 5-11 203 5

189 Zeke Motta SS 7 Notre Dame Sr 6-2 213 6

218 Robert Lester SS 8 Alabama Sr 6-1 220 6-7

239 Earl Wolff SS 9 North Carolina State rSr 5-11 209 7

266 Keelan Johnson SS 10 Arizona State rSr 6-0 209 7-FA

273 Cooper Taylor SS 11 Richmond rSr 6-5 228 7-FA

303 Ray Ray Armstrong SS 12 Miami (Fla.) rSr 6-3 216 7-FA

311 Jawanza Starling SS 13 Southern California Sr 6-1 202 7-FA

325 Don Jones SS 14 Arkansas State rSr 5-11 191 7-FA

383 Duron Harmon SS 15 Rutgers Sr 6-0 196 ––

409 Alonzo Tweedy SS 16 Virginia Tech rSr 6-1 197 ––

431 Orhian Johnson SS 17 Ohio State rSr 6-3 215 ––

452 Kemal Ishmael SS 18 UCF Sr 5-11 201 ––

480 Jahleel Addae SS 19 Central Michigan rSr 5-10 195 ––

499 Jeff Heath SS 20 Saginaw Valley Sr 6-1 209 ––

 

Top 20 RBs:

 

RANK PLAYER POS. POS. RANK SCHOOL CLASS HT. WT. PROJ. ROUND

35 *Eddie Lacy RB 1 Alabama rJr 5-11 231 1-2

56 Johnathan Franklin RB 2 UCLA rSr 5-10 205 2

60 Montee Ball RB 3 Wisconsin Sr 5-11 214 2

67 *Le'Veon Bell RB 4 Michigan State Jr 6-2 230 2-3

73 *Giovani Bernard RB 5 North Carolina rSo 5-9 202 2-3

89 Andre Ellington RB 6 Clemson rSr 5-9 199 3

99 Christine Michael RB 7 Texas A&M Sr 5-10 220 3-4

112 Stepfan Taylor RB 8 Stanford Sr 5-9 214 3-4

125 *Joseph Randle RB 9 Oklahoma State Jr 6-0 204 4

139 *Marcus Lattimore RB 10 South Carolina Jr 5-11 221 4-5

145 Mike Gillislee RB 11 Florida Sr 5-11 208 4-5

151 Kenjon Barner RB 12 Oregon rSr 5-9 196 4-5

160 Kerwynn Williams RB 13 Utah State Sr 5-8 195 5

180 *Michael Ford RB 14 LSU rJr 5-10 210 5-6

187 *Jawan Jamison RB 15 Rutgers rSo 5-8 203 6

192 *Cierre Wood RB 16 Notre Dame rJr 5-11 213 6

200 Zac Stacy RB 17 Vanderbilt Sr 5-9 216 6

212 Latavius Murray RB 18 UCF rSr 6-3 223 6-7

233 *Knile Davis RB 19 Arkansas rJr 6-0 227 7

261 Onterio McCalebb RB 20 Auburn Sr 5-10 168 7-FA

 

per CBSSports.com

 

This is either a list of Free or Stong but doesn't include all safeties. Notable absences are Kenny Vaccaro from Texas and Eric Reid of LSU.

If available I'd jump on Fisher like white on rice from Central Michigan. Don't see it though.

 

 

Thinking Fisher will fall to 21 is a pipe dream. He isn't out of the question for the #1 overall pick and haven't seen a mock that drops him past 7.

 

According to everything I've seen, OT's around their slot in the first round will be Fluker from Alabama and Watson from Florida State. Long should come off the board sometime in the second, whether around the Bengals first or second round picks will be dictated by whats going on in the draft and if there has been a run of OT yet. But this is a good draft for needing Offensive Linemen. A lot of good ones out there.

 

As far as RB, if they don't get Lacy or Gio Bernard I might just as well wait til later and take a chance on Lattimore or Barner. Lattimore obviously has the injury concerns. Barner is small. But I think either, given the correct work load and used the right way, could be game changers. When I look at Barner I see Darren Sproleish type stuff.

 

A lot of people are mocking Ogletree from UGa to us, but he's outside and I just don't see why we'd use a 1 on an area of non need.

 

I like Vaccaro. Don't think he'll be there. Beyond him, don't know if there are any of the other four top safeties that distinguish themselves enough to get out of the second round. I'm talking myself into the idea of liking Cordarelle Patterson....

[Hellbird]

If honey badger is there in the 2nd round I'd take him in a heartbeat

[UK#1fanisback]

The Bengals are giving safety Jonathan Cyprien a private workout this week he could be the 21st pick or they could trade down and get him later in the first round or second round.

[UKMustangFan]

If honey badger is there in the 2nd round I'd take him in a heartbeat

 

Draft a 5'9" DB who hasn't played in over a year in the top 60 picks? That would be about as bad a pick as one could make.

[futurecoach]

If honey badger is there in the 2nd round I'd take him in a heartbeat

 

Really? I mean I would like to have him too, however if they have to spend a 2nd round pick on him then no thanks. What is he projected as going? Is he projected in the 2nd? I really don't know however I would assume maybe the 4th would be the earliest for him, or he could even end up sliding all the way out like Vontez did last year.

[futurecoach]

The Bengals are giving safety Jonathan Cyprien a private workout this week he could be the 21st pick or they could trade down and get him later in the first round or second round.

 

I really like what I have heard about him. I know he probably wouldn't be popular pick because he is not the big name. However after seeing highlights on him this guy is a playmaker and plays the ball great in the air and gets great breaks on the ball. Not to mention the scouting report also talks about how good of a form tackler he is. Out of the safety's I would take him, and hope maybe he falls to the Bengals first 2nd round pick so they can address another position instead in the 1st.

[NamecipS]

For all the negative talk about the Bengals, they must be doing something right.

 

Redrafting 2010's first round: Big changes after Bradford at No. 1 - NFL - CBSSports.com News, Rumors, Scores, Stats, Fantasy

 

I understand it's easy to go back and change the draft based on how the players are playing now. My point on this is the Bengals have 2 players who were drafted outside the first round who would be first rounders if we could do it again.

 

Wonder how the 2011 and 2012 redrafts would look.

 

The Bengals are headed in the right direction. The "OLD TIMERS" who are tired of the same old same old can't see the changes that have happened recently. Building through the draft instead of making a big splash in free agency seems to be working. Are they done, no, but they're a lot closer than they were 10 years ago, even 5 years ago.

[ESPNdeux]

For all the negative talk about the Bengals, they must be doing something right.

 

Redrafting 2010's first round: Big changes after Bradford at No. 1 - NFL - CBSSports.com News, Rumors, Scores, Stats, Fantasy

 

I understand it's easy to go back and change the draft based on how the players are playing now. My point on this is the Bengals have 2 players who were drafted outside the first round who would be first rounders if we could do it again.

 

Wonder how the 2011 and 2012 redrafts would look.

 

The Bengals are headed in the right direction. The "OLD TIMERS" who are tired of the same old same old can't see the changes that have happened recently. Building through the draft instead of making a big splash in free agency seems to be working. Are they done, no, but they're a lot closer than they were 10 years ago, even 5 years ago.

 

 

This is exactly what I was saying in another thread. They're moving in the right direction.

[futurecoach]

For all the negative talk about the Bengals, they must be doing something right.

 

Redrafting 2010's first round: Big changes after Bradford at No. 1 - NFL - CBSSports.com News, Rumors, Scores, Stats, Fantasy

 

I understand it's easy to go back and change the draft based on how the players are playing now. My point on this is the Bengals have 2 players who were drafted outside the first round who would be first rounders if we could do it again.

 

Wonder how the 2011 and 2012 redrafts would look.

 

The Bengals are headed in the right direction. The "OLD TIMERS" who are tired of the same old same old can't see the changes that have happened recently. Building through the draft instead of making a big splash in free agency seems to be working. Are they done, no, but they're a lot closer than they were 10 years ago, even 5 years ago.

 

This is exactly what I was saying in another thread. They're moving in the right direction.

 

I will say this even though me and Hellbird have gotten into it a lot when it comes to what the Bengals are doing. I can see his frustration with things on what the Bengals are doing. He wants them to take advantage of having some young pieces and try to win now. He seen so many bad years from the Bengals of trying to build through the draft, it makes it very hard for him to see the Bengals are doing it right now with this philosophy. That philsophy sucked for the first 15 or so years under Mike Brown because that philosophy can't work if you don't draft well. However they have shown that they maybe finally have figured out how to draft well (knock on wood) which is the reason why people like us see the positive direction they are going. However some people like Hellbird and others can't see it because they have seen so many bad and just wrong moves by the bengals for so long. So even though I disagree with Hellbird on most things, I can at least see where he is coming from some what.