January 24, 201313 yr Drug laws hurt the black community? I thought people using drugs hurt their community. Surely you would blame the hurt on those that use rather than the laws against the use. When the law targets a minority of the population, and when that minority of the population in jail for that 'crime' is now the majority in prison, it doesn't take a genius to see what's going on.
January 24, 201313 yr Maybe but I can't help but believe that our forefathers who wrote this Amendment wouldn't be second guessing the meaning of the Amendment. Nothing in 1776 is like it is in 2013. I doubt they would. Though the statement about the militia is often misused and mis-stated it was even debated in the late 1700s the co-author of the 2nd amendment made it clear who the 'militia' was - it is the People as an entire group. They knew that people who are unarmed are not citizens - but subjects. They expected the People to retain their power over their government - even by force if necessary.
January 24, 201313 yr Author And I am more worried about paranoid statists who think government will do no harm and comply with every law, no matter how perverted, when the entirety of information is in the palm of your hand and you can obviously google anything you need to know regarding past actions our government has taken and realize our government hasn't been the best at protecting liberty. You would serve the crown, for sure. Gun laws and drug laws hurt that community, drastically. I don't think it was RR's objective to destroy the black community but, it has. You are part of the problem seeing how you comply with these laws with no resistance. Because I don't want to go to jail. Seems like a simple process to me. I don't want to sell drugs because it is illegal and the next kid trying to come up may try to kill me to take my corner. I wouldn't illegally carry a weapon either. I would legally purchase it because I don't want to go to jail.
January 24, 201313 yr When the law targets a minority of the population, and when that minority of the population in jail for that 'crime' is now the majority in prison, it doesn't take a genius to see what's going on. How did any laws target a minority? Are you saying that African Americans have been falsely jailed for drug crimes since the 80's. I thought all of those laws applied to all citizens. If people don't want to be arrested for drug charges, they shouldn't be involved in drugs.
January 24, 201313 yr Uh....no. 22 FEET. Approximately 7 yards. Beyond that it is difficult to be accurate with a pistol. The point being that its not difficult for the Ninja to avoid the bullets. Rifles are more accurate - if you have the room to use them. And in any case most rounds will not find their mark in a real fire-fight. I love Ron Whites routine about the police and criminal having a shoot-out at 'point-blank-range' and not one round hitting anyone on either side.
January 24, 201313 yr Author Drug laws hurt the black community? I thought people using drugs hurt their community. Surely you would blame the hurt on those that use rather than the laws against the use. When you look at the fact that a person can go to jail for 3-5 years for carrying a few crack rocks on them but get probation for carry the same amount of powder that would produce 3-5 rocks there is a problem. Add in the fact that the crack rock form of cocaine is/was prevalent in the inner city and that powder users tend to be in the suburbs..well....then....there you have it.
January 24, 201313 yr Author How did any laws target a minority? Are you saying that African Americans have been falsely jailed for drug crimes since the 80's. I thought all of those laws applied to all citizens. If people don't want to be arrested for drug charges, they shouldn't be involved in drugs. No. We are saying that blacks have been the target of unfair laws surrounding non-violent drug offenses.
January 24, 201313 yr When you look at the fact that a person can go to jail for 3-5 years for carrying a few crack rocks on them but get probation for carry the same amount of powder that would produce 3-5 rocks there is a problem. Add in the fact that the crack rock form of cocaine is/was prevalent in the inner city and that powder users tend to be in the suburbs..well....then....there you have it. True, they were attacking crack. However, I don't believe that these laws have been upheld through some sort of racist agenda. They arrest criminals who engage in drug crimes.
January 24, 201313 yr Because I don't want to go to jail. Seems like a simple process to me. I don't want to sell drugs because it is illegal and the next kid trying to come up may try to kill me to take my corner. I wouldn't illegally carry a weapon either. I would legally purchase it because I don't want to go to jail. But as an individual, I would think you would want to safeguard your most basic natural rights that are not given to you by government. Therefore you do your fighting at the ballot box, volunteer for candidates that is protecting those rights, like Rand Paul (he would end the drug war and realizes the racist background.) or donate money to a group that is dedicated to overturning the unjust laws. I have a few on the top of my head.
January 24, 201313 yr Author True, they were attacking crack. However, I don't believe that these laws have been upheld through some sort of racist agenda. They arrest criminals who engage in drug crimes. While I agree somewhat there has always been a feeling that these laws do have a racial agenda and the government's inability to reform these laws hasn't done anything to relieve that belief. A non-violent two time drug offender shouldn't be sitting in prison for 15 years.
January 24, 201313 yr How did any laws target a minority? Are you saying that African Americans have been falsely jailed for drug crimes since the 80's. I thought all of those laws applied to all citizens. If people don't want to be arrested for drug charges, they shouldn't be involved in drugs. the-war-on-drugs-is-the-new-slavery
January 24, 201313 yr No. My fear of AK-47s and all guns in general for that matter have nothing to do with the president. It has to do with me going to my brother-in-law's house to see his weapons cache and then me wondering what the hell does he need all of that weaponry for. To your last part, let me go further, three criminals will never come into my house ever. Not in my neighborhood. Not gonna happen. And if it does it won't be three ninjas who can catch bullets in their teeth.What am I, Jason Bourne? It will be some pill heads who think I have pills. I don't know how familiar you are with Danville, Ky but uh......home invasions very rarely happen. And when it does it is usually the drug dealer getting his PS3 stolen from him by the crackheads he let in to case his house when they were getting their rocks. What business is it of yours why he has those guns? You have a problem with collectors? So...because "it won't happen in Danville" it won't happen any place else? Simply put, you don't sound all that supportive of the 2nd and you, rockmom or any of the others in opposition haven't told me how criminals are going to be limited. The problem with EVERYTHING being proposed is it's ONLY going to affect the law abiding. How do these so called solutions keep schools or my home safe?
January 24, 201313 yr 'Enough is enough,' Feinstein says in proposing new gun ban - CNN.com Feinstein's measure would stop the sale, transfer, importation and manufacture of more than 100 specialty firearms and certain semi-automatic rifles, as well as limiting magazines to 10 rounds or less, she said. Not all of the weapons in the bill meet the technical definition of assault weapons. The restrictions would not apply to guns owned before enactment of any law. Feinstein noted her proposal exempts from the ban more than 2,000 models used for hunting or sporting purposes. "They are by make and model exempted from the legislation," she said, adding that the old ban had 375 such exemptions. However, those grandfathered weapons will be put in a national registry.
January 24, 201313 yr the-war-on-drugs-is-the-new-slavery Come on marvel, drug use is the new slavery. Drug use is a choice that carries multiple consequences.
January 24, 201313 yr While I agree somewhat there has always been a feeling that these laws do have a racial agenda and the government's inability to reform these laws hasn't done anything to relieve that belief. A non-violent two time drug offender shouldn't be sitting in prison for 15 years. Its for another thread, but I disagree. It seems like if they are a two time offender the first punishment didn't work.
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