Unbeaten Marion County tops girls’ ratings | Fields Notes

 

 

Does anyone know when the Courier releases the LIT ratings?

Unbeaten Marion County tops girls’ ratings | Fields Notes

 

 

Does anyone know when the Courier releases the LIT ratings?

The 8th is Anderson's to lose. Tell me magicfan217, is the 2012-2013 version of Coach Kay's club experiencing the phenomenon known as "addition by subtraction/graduation"? They are having their way with good teams and seem to be on a mission.

Anderson has played well. Probably a number of factors have played into that. There is still a lot of basketball to be played and the 8th has several solid teams that could beat Anderson on a given night. Other then marion county, it seems like there is a lot of parity around the state.

Unbeaten Marion County tops girls’ ratings | Fields Notes

 

 

Does anyone know when the Courier releases the LIT ratings?

 

Usually the first week of jan. It was Jan. 5th last year

The 8th is Anderson's to lose. Tell me magicfan217, is the 2012-2013 version of Coach Kay's club experiencing the phenomenon known as "addition by subtraction/graduation"? They are having their way with good teams and seem to be on a mission.

 

 

Coach Kays is a fine coach who knows what to do and when to do it, and his Lady Bearcats are a good group that has experienced both success and disappointment the past couple of years. They're well on their way to a great year, but it's too early to be at peak performance. There is much time between now and post-season, and for them to do what they ultimately want to do, well, it's not easy to maintain what they have been doing for two more months. However I am sure they want to do just that and will continue to work that end.

Unbeaten Marion County tops girls’ ratings | Fields Notes

 

 

Does anyone know when the Courier releases the LIT ratings?

 

 

 

 

Sorry, but Mr. Fields (actually Mr. Cantrall) is ... out in "left Field," I'm afraid. He does have #1 correct, though. It's good food for thought and peaks interest and sells newpapers.

Glad to see Anderson(#2) and SK ranked in the state representing the 8th region. Both especially Anderson have been impressive.

Sorry, but Mr. Fields (actually Mr. Cantrall) is ... out in "left Field," I'm afraid. He does have #1 correct, though. It's good food for thought and peaks interest and sells newpapers.

 

Its not his personal opinion....it's a mathematical formula that spits out a rating based on scores in games played....similar to the BCS.

 

Looking at the records and scores of the games this list looks very reasonable Imo

Its not his personal opinion....it's a mathematical formula that spits out a rating based on scores in games played....similar to the BCS.

 

Looking at the records and scores of the games this list looks very reasonable Imo

 

Is there any strength of schedule factoring in this ranking?

Is there any strength of schedule factoring

in this ranking?

 

I actually don't know the exact formula. I know the LIT and Cantrell rankings are calculated differently but I am certain that SOS is a part of both ratings systems. I think the main difference in the two is how they factor in margin of victory but I am not 100% sure.

 

I like comparing the two just for arguments sake....but im a numbers person! Ha

Its not his personal opinion....it's a mathematical formula that spits out a rating based on scores in games played....similar to the BCS.

 

Looking at the records and scores of the games this list looks very reasonable Imo

 

[B] I understand that Mr. Cantrall's is formula ranking, as are the Lit-Ratings, but thanks for the tutorial session. As for being "reasonable," how reasonable one thinks the rankings are subjectively depends upon where his/her team is ranked for most observers (which, I will speculate, likely explains why Anderson's #2 slot seems reasonable to you). Now I have no dog in this fight regarding these particular schools, but I will tell you with confidence that Assumption and Butler (they had an off night against AC after a road game OT win) are certainly better than where they are ranked. As indicated earlier, this stuff sells newspapers and fuels healthy discussions in a forum such as this. Civility and the ability to agree to disagree are good things not common enough in these days and times. [/b]

[B] I understand that Mr. Cantrall's is formula ranking, as are the Lit-Ratings, but thanks for the tutorial session. As for being "reasonable," how reasonable one thinks the rankings are subjectively depends upon where his/her team is ranked for most observers (which, I will speculate, likely explains why Anderson's #2 slot seems reasonable to you). Now I have no dog in this fight regarding these particular schools, but I will tell you with confidence that Assumption and Butler (they had an off night against AC after a road game OT win) are certainly better than where they are ranked. As indicated earlier, this stuff sells newspapers and fuels healthy discussions in a forum such as this. Civility and the ability to agree to disagree are good things not common enough in these days and times. [/b]

 

 

You crack me up. FYI, stating that teams that lost to another team are still better because they just had an off night is in fact a subjective opinion that you are accusing others of having. Sorry but the ranking can't consider your opinion, it has to take actual wins and losses. Anderson beat both Assumption and Butler handily, ranking them higher is pretty simple..without any subjective opinion.

[B] I understand that Mr. Cantrall's is formula ranking, as are the Lit-Ratings, but thanks for the tutorial session. As for being "reasonable," how reasonable one thinks the rankings are subjectively depends upon where his/her team is ranked for most observers (which, I will speculate, likely explains why Anderson's #2 slot seems reasonable to you). Now I have no dog in this fight regarding these particular schools, but I will tell you with confidence that Assumption and Butler (they had an off night against AC after a road game OT win) are certainly better than where they are ranked. As indicated earlier, this stuff sells newspapers and fuels healthy discussions in a forum such as this. Civility and the ability to agree to disagree are good things not common enough in these days and times. [/b]

 

Wow....u mad bro?

 

Your statement that fields was "out in left field" would seem to indicate that you felt these were his personal rankings, thus the tuturial I tried explaining. Unlike your personal rankings there is no bias towards one team or another. It is simply a mathematical formula used to sort teams.

 

As far as anderson is concerned, they have 20 point+ victories over dunbar, butler, manual, Lex cath, and franklin co as well as a pair of 10 pt victories over lincoln and etown. Its pretty easy to see why any rankings system would have them that high.

 

Does that mean anderson is a sure fire lock to win the 8th? Certainly not. But even a biased observer such as yourself would have a hard time.arguing that there is anyone that has a better pre january resume in the 8th then AC.

Wow....u mad bro?

 

Your statement that fields was "out in left field" would seem to indicate that you felt these were his personal rankings, thus the tuturial I tried explaining. Unlike your personal rankings there is no bias towards one team or another. It is simply a mathematical formula used to sort teams.

 

As far as anderson is concerned, they have 20 point+ victories over dunbar, butler, manual, Lex cath, and franklin co as well as a pair of 10 pt victories over lincoln and etown. Its pretty easy to see why any rankings system would have them that high.

 

Does that mean anderson is a sure fire lock to win the 8th? Certainly not. But even a biased observer such as yourself would have a hard time.arguing that there is anyone that has a better pre january resume in the 8th then AC.

 

AC first in the 8th - no argument there from me. There's no disputing that now, especially with Walton's Sandlin injured. AC is the class of the 8th and one of the best teams in the state at this point. I wish them the best. Just saying that ... 1) there are some teams - ones that I mentioned - that MAY well be around during the post season and will also continue to have fine seasons; 2) early season wins are many times as hollow as an easter egg bunny - especially ones in a holiday tournament; and 3) a couple of the teams mentioned as stellar "20+plus victories" during the time I mentioned were against teams not at full strength.

 

Ummm ... was Dunbar at full strength or still without their injured point guard? or was Manual with all of their regular starters? or Franklin with its healthy starting lineup? E-town is a very young but talented group that is still finding itself through trial and error. Yes, these were eye-poppoing scores, for sure. I was not at the event but have heard from several who were there who indicated that a few of these clubs might not have been at full strength. It will all come out in the wash as the season unfolds, as always. Best of luck to your team and I hope they continue their roll. Hope 2013 is good to you and happy new year.

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Couldn't have said it any better!!!

AC first in the 8th - no argument there from me. There's no disputing that now, especially with Walton's Sandlin injured. AC is the class of the 8th and one of the best teams in the state at this point. I wish them the best. Just saying that ... 1) there are some teams - ones that I mentioned - that MAY well be around during the post season and will also continue to have fine seasons; 2) early season wins are many times as hollow as an easter egg bunny - especially ones in a holiday tournament; and 3) a couple of the teams mentioned as stellar "20+plus victories" during the time I mentioned were against teams not at full strength.

 

Ummm ... was Dunbar at full strength or still without their injured point guard? or was Manual with all of their regular starters? or Franklin with its healthy starting lineup? E-town is a very young but talented group that is still finding itself through trial and error. Yes, these were eye-poppoing scores, for sure. I was not at the event but have heard from several who were there who indicated that a few of these clubs might not have been at full strength. It will all come out in the wash as the season unfolds, as always. Best of luck to your team and I hope they continue their roll. Hope 2013 is good to you and happy new year.