To tell you the truth I played at a small Class A school and I would hate to see basketball classified. I enjoy competing against the big schools.

 

CCH has beat us like 13 out of the last 14 times. But I was on the team for that one victory and boy was it sweet.

 

Again, no one's saying you can't compete against the big schools. Can you schedule them for football? It can work and it's much better than the other band aid ideas that have been thrown around.

Again, no one's saying you can't compete against the big schools. Can you schedule them for football? It can work and it's much better than the other band aid ideas that have been thrown around.

I'm just saying I like competing for that regional crown against the big boys. Class A in this area would be a 3 way race every year like it is now.

I'm just saying I like competing for that regional crown against the big boys. Class A in this area would be a 3 way race every year like it is now.

 

Remember that there would be some manipulation in the numbers. Off the top of my head I can think of 4 small schools that play basketball that don't play football. Some of the borderline schools, in terms of enrollment, may actually play AA. I'd really like to see a breakdown and see how it would work. I understand your point and agree with it but answer me this; Shirley you don't think the compromise brought forth is better than a simple split of all sports?

It's all about the money. The KHSAA has no regards for the students just the bottom line. As always KY is bringing up the rear when it comes to changes. Ky the only state that still does not classify basekeball or baseball. Somebody needs to bring the governing organization kicking and screaming into the 21st century.

Don't think you are on base with this comment. If KHSAA tried to classify basketball, it would not be them that would be kicking and screaming. It would be the state legislatures who would be filing bills to stop it.

Remember that there would be some manipulation in the numbers. Off the top of my head I can think of 4 small schools that play basketball that don't play football. Some of the borderline schools, in terms of enrollment, may actually play AA. I'd really like to see a breakdown and see how it would work. I understand your point and agree with it but answer me this; Shirley you don't think the compromise brought forth is better than a simple split of all sports?

Almost anything is better than a simple split of public and private. The split kicks some private school kids out because their communities have worked hard to give them the best. It kicks other private schools kids out because they are private school kids. It is wrong.

Almost anything is better than a simple split of public and private. The split kicks some private school kids out because their communities have worked hard to give them the best. It kicks other private schools kids out because they are private school kids. It is wrong.

 

That's the conclusion I've come to. Almost anything, just not what they've decided on, IMO.

Don't think you are on base with this comment. If KHSAA tried to classify basketball, it would not be them that would be kicking and screaming. It would be the state legislatures who would be filing bills to stop it.

 

Which again, is a joke. We already have enough people that know nothing about sports trying to run the show. We don't need blow hards also.

Remember that there would be some manipulation in the numbers. Off the top of my head I can think of 4 small schools that play basketball that don't play football. Some of the borderline schools, in terms of enrollment, may actually play AA. I'd really like to see a breakdown and see how it would work. I understand your point and agree with it but answer me this; Shirley you don't think the compromise brought forth is better than a simple split of all sports?

 

If you go to classification in KY in the sports that are currently not classified you have to decide how many classes in each sport.

 

You can do that based on the number of schools participating and that would make sense. So wrestling might still only have 1 class and basketball would have 4 or 5.

 

Or you can do it with the idea of what will float with the least opposition. That might be to leave basketball as is and classify the other sports. Or possibly 2 classes for basketball. Half the teams in the large school division, half in the small school division.

If you go to classification in KY in the sports that are currently not classified you have to decide how many classes in each sport.

 

You can do that based on the number of schools participating and that would make sense. So wrestling might still only have 1 class and basketball would have 4 or 5.

 

Or you can do it with the idea of what will float with the least opposition. That might be to leave basketball as is and classify the other sports. Or possibly 2 classes for basketball. Half the teams in the large school division, half in the small school division.

 

True. If you split basketball into two divisions you could still have a Sweet Sixteen as well, you would just add the *Regional Championship to Rupp. This will help some people get over the distance factor.

 

 

*Or whatever it would be called.

I am going to say some things about this and then I will "Fight No More Forever", or something like that. [ maybe ] I think for every "sweet victory" out there, there were/are dozens of "sour losses". When you put all sports into classes it doesn't matter if a school does not have a team in all sports. They are in classes for the sports they do provide. The comment about "what if they don't have a football team?" makes no sense for this discussion. I don't say that with any harshness, just a reminder. At this stage of development creating a Class System in all sports is the viable solution. If this is not the solution, then why not do away with classes for football and just play the alligned districts? Of course that is a silly question. ANNNND, if that is a silly question, then it should stand that there is a need to class the other sports. The football classes were created to make equity across the board for smaller schools vs larger schools. Why then is it not viable for all other sports? This is the solution, but I don't think I will see it in my time as a coach and educater.

I am going to say some things about this and then I will "Fight No More Forever", or something like that. [ maybe ] I think for every "sweet victory" out there, there were/are dozens of "sour losses". When you put all sports into classes it doesn't matter if a school does not have a team in all sports. They are in classes for the sports they do provide. The comment about "what if they don't have a football team?" makes no sense for this discussion. I don't say that with any harshness, just a reminder. At this stage of development creating a Class System in all sports is the viable solution. If this is not the solution, then why not do away with classes for football and just play the alligned districts? Of course that is a silly question. ANNNND, if that is a silly question, then it should stand that there is a need to class the other sports. The football classes were created to make equity across the board for smaller schools vs larger schools. Why then is it not viable for all other sports? This is the solution, but I don't think I will see it in my time as a coach and educater.

 

Yep... :thumb:

I am going to say some things about this and then I will "Fight No More Forever", or something like that. [ maybe ] I think for every "sweet victory" out there, there were/are dozens of "sour losses". When you put all sports into classes it doesn't matter if a school does not have a team in all sports. They are in classes for the sports they do provide. The comment about "what if they don't have a football team?" makes no sense for this discussion. I don't say that with any harshness, just a reminder. At this stage of development creating a Class System in all sports is the viable solution. If this is not the solution, then why not do away with classes for football and just play the alligned districts? Of course that is a silly question. ANNNND, if that is a silly question, then it should stand that there is a need to class the other sports. The football classes were created to make equity across the board for smaller schools vs larger schools. Why then is it not viable for all other sports? This is the solution, but I don't think I will see it in my time as a coach and educater.

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Why can't we have people like you on the advisory committee task force!!!

Good post

I am going to say some things about this and then I will "Fight No More Forever", or something like that. [ maybe ] I think for every "sweet victory" out there, there were/are dozens of "sour losses". When you put all sports into classes it doesn't matter if a school does not have a team in all sports. They are in classes for the sports they do provide. The comment about "what if they don't have a football team?" makes no sense for this discussion. I don't say that with any harshness, just a reminder. At this stage of development creating a Class System in all sports is the viable solution. If this is not the solution, then why not do away with classes for football and just play the alligned districts? Of course that is a silly question. ANNNND, if that is a silly question, then it should stand that there is a need to class the other sports. The football classes were created to make equity across the board for smaller schools vs larger schools. Why then is it not viable for all other sports? This is the solution, but I don't think I will see it in my time as a coach and educater.

 

Breathe, relax, breath.

 

You have to have classes based on the number of schools offering the sport, not just stick a school in a class and say it is that way for ALL sports.

Hint: That Class A wrestling group might be a tad small.

 

Right now Track and Cross-Country have three classes. Football has four. The rest of the sports have one. It isn't that hard to determine how many classes there should be for Soccer, Wrestling, Vollleyball, Basketball, Baseball, Tennis, and Golf.

Breathe, relax, breath.

 

You have to have classes based on the number of schools offering the sport, not just stick a school in a class and say it is that way for ALL sports.

Hint: That Class A wrestling group might be a tad small.

 

Right now Track and Cross-Country have three classes. Football has four. The rest of the sports have one. It isn't that hard to determine how many classes there should be for Soccer, Wrestling, Vollleyball, Basketball, Baseball, Tennis, and Golf.

 

Exactly... :thumb:

 

By the way this thread is going tells me that this is the best solution. So far the only dispute is not by a poster but an assumption (probably a correct one, BTW) that an elected official will try to get involved to save the Sweet Sixteen. It has also been determined that there still is a possibility for a Sweet Sixteen type of event for basketball.

 

So, can anyone tell me why this hasn't been explored by the "brain power" in charge of OUR kids extracurricular activities? They are the "educated" ones, correct? If it has been explored why wasn't it talked about more?

 

The ultimate question is this, are these people getting paid?

Exactly... :thumb:

 

By the way this thread is going tells me that this is the best solution. So far the only dispute is not by a poster but an assumption (probably a correct one, BTW) that an elected official will try to get involved to save the Sweet Sixteen. It has also been determined that there still is a possibility for a Sweet Sixteen type of event for basketball.

 

So, can anyone tell me why this hasn't been explored by the "brain power" in charge of OUR kids extracurricular activities? They are the "educated" ones, correct? If it has been explored why wasn't it talked about more?

 

The ultimate question is this, are these people getting paid?

 

I don't know if Classes for other sports have ever been voted on in the form of a Proposition are exactly what the procedure is.

 

However, classification is not a cure-all for all the issues. Remember that one of the biggest complaints is that 5 of 8 teams playing in the football finals were private schools. If there are 4 classes of volleyball and Assumption/Mercy/ Sacred Heart/Notre Dame dominate 4A, Lex Cath wins 3A, St. Henry wins 2A, and NCC wins 1A I don't think that makes things all that better and could make things worse.