Great thought in theory. However, I know several folks who have trapped all of their lives who struggle with coyotes. They're nose is difficult to fool, even with palmolive gloves and waxed traps. I understand you're talking live traps, but I can't imagine the cost for a neutering program being something that our tax strapped state would want to put to a vote, or that our fish and wildlife dept would want to pay for by pilfering from another program.

 

When actually coyote hunting, I use a .22-250. There is no suffering. Just swift passing of coyotes. Shotgun, not as swift, that I'll give you. As for the females that would likely be able to shorten the gestational period, biologically speaking do we really have evidence of that? And in my experience, females are just as likely to be the target as a male when hunting them.

 

I agree with you...I am not sure any state really has the funds, or would expend them anyway for trap and neuter. Thus shooting is the next option. And the reality is that they can/are become nuisances and a danger that cannot be tolerated. Animal rights or not, there is a reality. As far as the evidence...I think so....I read it on the internet.

doomer, got a question...why are you ok with wolves keeping coyote populations in check but not humans? I promise you shooting one is much more painless then what a wolf will do to it.

I agree with you...I am not sure any state really has the funds, or would expend them anyway for trap and neuter. Thus shooting is the next option. And the reality is that they can/are become nuisances and a danger that cannot be tolerated. Animal rights or not, there is a reality. As far as the evidence...I think so....I read it on the internet.

 

Are you a French model?

Are you a French model?

 

Why....oui.....how did you know?

doomer, got a question...why are you ok with wolves keeping coyote populations in check but not humans? I promise you shooting one is much more painless then what a wolf will do to it.

 

Maybe you missed my other post. I am not against it...it is necessary. Also, I stated wolves are their natural predator, didn't say that would be a preferred death...I would rather be shot also!

 

I would only hope that we agree that a clean shot, instant death be the intention. There are other population control methods as I mentioned, but I don't realistically expect those to be enacted due to cost and unproven effectiveness.

 

At some point however, what is the next stage? Is there a coyote population figure that is healthy, or should they all be eliminated?

I don't believe any animal should ever be totally eliminated from any ecosystem it is native to. As long as there is a healthy balance every part of the system will be better off.

 

Last night one of the guys I hunt with was hunting a farm we lease. He said a coyote came busting out of the woods into the corn field and had 3 labs chasing it. Maybe they do have a natural predator other then people.

Maybe a dumb question but are there wolves in Kentucky now? I thought wolves were pretty much only in Canada and parts north these days with the exception of those reintroduced to yellowstone.

Maybe a dumb question but are there wolves in Kentucky now? I thought wolves were pretty much only in Canada and parts north these days with the exception of those reintroduced to yellowstone.

No wolves in KY. There are wolves in states like WI and MN. Not sure about the Dakotas or other Northern states.

 

The biggest predator in KY are bears and they are only in the extreme southeastern portion.

No wolves in KY. There are wolves in states like WI and MN. Not sure about the Dakotas or other Northern states.

 

The biggest predator in KY are bears and they are only in the extreme southeastern portion.

 

Do bobcats and coyotes ever mix up with each other?

I don't believe any animal should ever be totally eliminated from any ecosystem it is native to. As long as there is a healthy balance every part of the system will be better off.

 

Last night one of the guys I hunt with was hunting a farm we lease. He said a coyote came busting out of the woods into the corn field and had 3 labs chasing it. Maybe they do have a natural predator other then people.

 

True...the labs were playing fetch though. :lol: I have heard stories where coyotes will lure single dogs into the woods then eat them. I wonder if that is myth or reality.

Do bobcats and coyotes ever mix up with each other?

I'm sure they've crossed paths before and there was an incident but not something either is looking for on purpose. One on one my money would be on the bobcat

A female bobcat is a bad, bad animal.

True...the labs were playing fetch though. :lol: I have heard stories where coyotes will lure single dogs into the woods then eat them. I wonder if that is myth or reality.

Could be but I doubt it. Just don't seem that cunning to me.

I'm sure they've crossed paths before and there was an incident but not something either is looking for on purpose. One on one my money would be on the bobcat

 

A female bobcat is a bad, bad animal.

 

I'd LOVE to get to see one in the wild. They've always been intrigued by bobcats. We just don't get them here (except for the VERY occasional rogue) in the top 8 or 10 counties of Kentucky.

I'd LOVE to get to see one in the wild. They've always been intrigued by bobcats. We just don't get them here (except for the VERY occasional rogue) in the top 8 or 10 counties of Kentucky.

I've been deer hunting for close to 20 years and I've never seen one. And Henderson has a pretty good population of them.