School orders cross removed from football helmets

[jericho]

A big thanks to liberal and atheist for destroying our Christian culture/traditions and allowing a GODLESS society run amuck. Society is going to heck in a handbasket.

 

School Orders Cross Removed From Football Helmets | FOX News & Commentary: Todd Starnes

[True blue (and gold)]

I think that we've gone to heck in a hand basket because being of how little we seem to care for each other and how poorly we treat each other, Christian or otherwise. Christianity should be mre than a symbol or badge.

[jericho]

I think that we've gone to heck in a hand basket because being of how little we seem to care for each other and how poorly we treat each other, Christian or otherwise. Christianity should be mre than a symbol or badge.

 

I agree with that, moms killing their own kids, kids killing parents, people raping and killing little kids, kids are out of control. due in part to not being in church as a little kid,parents on drugs and having no discipline at home, no father figures, etc. Yes society is as bad as I have ever seen it and it wont get better.

[2 Humped Camel]

Here you go again.....if people want their kids to wear a cross on their football helmet they are perfectly free to send their kid to a private school.

[Getslow]

I don't think that this is some indication of the decay of society or anything like that, but I do think that considering this team is comprised of the combined student bodies of a public and a Catholic school, the combined logo's really well done and pretty harmless. They combined imagery from the two schools to create a united logo... that's pretty awesome if you ask me.

 

I understand separation of Church and state. I understand it quite well. I don't understand why this particular thing bothers people.

[Getslow]

Here's a question about the resolution here.

 

Would those opposed have a problem if the... ugh... bishop's hat (it's called a mitre)... were on the logo without the cross? If the logo were just a large, unadorned mitre with a greyhound in the foreground?

[2 Humped Camel]

I don't personally have a problem with it. But say a Sikh student joins the football team, can a Patka be added to the symbol? What about a Yamaka that the Jewish football player wants on the helmet? If public dollars are behind the team then it has to remain free of religious symbols.

[Getslow]

I don't personally have a problem with it. But say a Sikh student joins the football team, can a Patka be added to the symbol? What about a Yamaka that the Jewish football player wants on the helmet? If public dollars are behind the team then it has to remain free of religious symbols.

 

It's not about the religions or non-religions of individual students. It's about the schools. These are logos of the two schools. If they were partnered with a local Islamic center school (though I've never heard of a high school) then I'd also have no problem with them getting some sort of symbol on the helmet... though I'd imagine there'd suddenly be a lot more people who'd find a problem with it that don't see a problem with this one.

[jericho]

It is principle of the thing, one person with an agenda ruins it for everyone and gets their way.

[SportsGuy41017]

A big thanks to liberal and atheist

To quote Reagan, "There you go again!" Misleading topic headline. Where does it say that the person is an atheist? Just because someone does not agree with you they are instantly an atheist? A bit judgmental aren't we?

 

I have no problem with the helmet, both schools designed it, each school should get a say what is on, not what can't be on, the helmet/uniforms. Was this design on the helmet in previous years?

 

Also, I knew a few people like the parent who raised the question about this helmet, always complaining about something, it may appear they were "liberal", far from it! They were conservative!

[jericho]

Liberals and atheist helped spawn the stuff that goes on with this stuff.

[SportsGuy41017]

Liberals and atheist helped spawn the stuff that goes on with this stuff.

No in all cases. But as I mentioned, your thread headline states that the parent who complained was an atheist, it's misleading.

 

As I also mentioned, I knew people like the parent in this article, they were in fact 100% conservative! What "spawns" this type of stuff is religious intolerance! People who are at least some what religious hating on people of other religions. Christians are even against other Christian religions, look at Romney, other Christians, including so-called leaders of churches have said that Mormons are not Christian. I see it at times myself by people saying Catholics are not Christians. Heck, we see it on BGP here with "Crusades" against Muslins.

 

There is nothing out there that separates people more than religion, It's the most segregated thing out there! THAT is what spawns this type of stuff.

 

I am willing to bet that the parent here is religious, their issue is that they are not Catholic, and it was a hit at the Catholic school.

[Dlbdonn]

Why not let the kids from the Catholic school on the team wear the logo with the Cross and the kids from the public school whear the Greyhound on their helmets .

[Bert]

If they were partnered with a local Islamic center school (though I've never heard of a high school) then I'd also have no problem with them getting some sort of symbol on the helmet... though I'd imagine there'd suddenly be a lot more people who'd find a problem with it that don't see a problem with this one.

 

If a public school located in an area with a Muslim population and attended by a large number of muslims were to put an Islamic Crescent Moon on their helmets, a decent percentage of the same people who scream about Christian symbols in public places would suddenly be claiming that we should respect their culture and we should embrace diversity and on the flip side, a decent percentage of those who defend Christian images in public display would be having a stroke just thinking about an Islamic symbol in public period. The hipocracy of both sides in the seperation of church and state is quite comical but quite sad too.

[Getslow]

If a public school located in an area with a Muslim population and attended by a large number of muslims were to put an Islamic Crescent Moon on their helmets, a decent percentage of the same people who scream about Christian symbols in public places would suddenly be claiming that we should respect their culture and we should embrace diversity and on the flip side, a decent percentage of those who defend Christian images in public display would be having a stroke just thinking about an Islamic symbol in public period. The hipocracy of both sides in the seperation of church and state is quite comical but quite sad too.

 

On that last part we agree. It's not hard to notice that, from either side, when you hear someone screaming about tolerance, they're usually not looking to build a canal, but open up a river... so that it flows only one way.

 

But I think we have a special case here. We're not talking about a public school with a lot of Catholic students that decided to put a mitre on their helments. We're talking about a joint football team between two schools where, in order to create a helmet logo, they literally just combined the two team logos. I've always thought of myself as someone capable of at least some measure of empathy and understanding but I simply can't fathom why anyone finds fault with what the students chose to do with the helmet logos here.