October 13, 201213 yr Nobody puts on a hit and run in that situation. It was a double steal to prevent the double play on a ground ball and he was hoping for a ball four. Had it been a hit and run, Hanigan swings the bat especially on strike 3. Semantics. Call it what you want, it's all the same. Hit and run is a double steal. If it's a strike you hit it. Not sure what the difference is. You don't take a strike three regardless.
October 13, 201213 yr Semantics. Call it what you want, it's all the same. Hit and run is a double steal. If it's a strike you hit it. Not sure what the difference is. You don't take a strike three regardless. Hit and Run and a Double Steal are completely different things.
October 13, 201213 yr Most hit and runs are done with a runner on first to move the 2nd baseman to the 2nd base bag to open a hole on the right side of the infield...it also allows a runner to move from 1st to 3rd easier. Hit and Run you are taught to swing at any pitch that doesn't bounce to the plate.
October 13, 201213 yr Hit and Run and a Double Steal are completely different things. It was a full count. You don't give a double steal sign on a 3-2 pitch. Everyone knows if it's anywhere near the plate you are swinging.
October 13, 201213 yr It was a full count. You don't give a double steal sign on a 3-2 pitch. Everyone knows if it's anywhere near the plate you are swinging. I agree but I would never give a Hit and Run with a full count either. In high school and college I was taught to throw the bat at the ball in a hit and run situation unless it bounced to the plate. This call really made no sense to me. He would have been better off to bunt Hanigan and have two runners in scoring position with one out if he was that worried about the ground ball double play.
October 13, 201213 yr Most teach to take a ball, regardless of the situation. Why swing at a pitch out of the strike zone, especially with two strikes? A double steal with two strikes is a hit and run. You can't take strike three, clearly.
October 13, 201213 yr Most teach to take a ball, regardless of the situation. Why swing at a pitch out of the strike zone, especially with two strikes? A double steal with two strikes is a hit and run. You can't take strike three, clearly. Unless you are Ryan Hanigan.
October 13, 201213 yr Most teach to take a ball, regardless of the situation. Why swing at a pitch out of the strike zone, especially with two strikes? A double steal with two strikes is a hit and run. You can't take strike three, clearly. If you are taking the pitch, then it is just a steal. The reason you swing at a bad pitch in a hit and run is to obstruct the catchers attempt to throw out the runner (This isn't needed on a pitch in the dirt). With that said, it can't be a hit and run if the batter doesn't swing...its just a steal. But either of those calls in that situation are bad decisions. Dusty was obviously concerned about the double play, so why not bunt. You then have 2nd and 3rd with 1 out and Stubbs up. You can then let Stubbs hit or bring in Frazier (which he did in Stubbs next at bat).
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