I think that the game that UK#1 is refering to was the championship game of the Starter Bowl which is more or less the for first place in the NKYFL. The 1st & 3rd, and 2nd & 4th works ok if both teams have enough players, but many of the teams in NKYFL don,t have enough players to do that so they need to sub in when they can. Coach's sons playing wether they deserve it or not is one of the main reasons that we have coaches at all. Watching my son on the sidelines, or sitting the bench when what I felt that coach's sons or favorites of lessor abilities are getting more oportunities is fustrating, but my son enjoys the games, and uses it as motivation to get better. Hopfully as they get older , and the Daddys are replaced with real coaches they'll get the chances they deserve.

 

No I was talking about the Tiger Bowl we have the Starter Bowl coming up next week.

There are plenty of coaches who coach their kids and don't give them special treatment. I've coached my kids in several sports. In football I'm not their position coach and make no decisions regarding their playing time. They call me coach on the field (and probably other names under their breath).

 

On the other hand, I've seen the lack of playing time, and preferential treatment many coaches give to the certain few. While there are some kids that aren't ready to play and could get hurt if put out there, in my experience, there aren't many of these kids. This ultra competitiveness is especially prevalent in the NKYFL. Too many guys getting worked up winning Super Bowl trophies rather than developing kids. It's crazy to see teams with 30 kids on a team only playing 12 or 13 kids.

UK it sucks dude not sure what to tell you. Just help your son to get better and stand out next year. As a coach, Ive been on the other side of this, you know when the parents say you play your kid to much, your son shouldnt play cause he sucks and the whole team is better than him....you know, the son I dont have. That invisable little punk is always causing me trouble, lol.

Funny story about my experiences with Daddy Ball. My son who is now a Sr in High School played for a team in 6th grade in the FTJRFL and the 4 coaches all had their sons in the skilled positions on the 1st team. They played QB and all 3 RB spots, how ironic huh. Well, my son was probably the most athletic kid on the team and fast but they put him and another very good athlete on the 2nd team. He was the RB and the other kid was the QB and they had a blast. While the first team couldnt get past the 50 yrd line most games and went 3 and out a lot, his 2nd team was having fun sustaining drives and enjoying the game. The kids who were starting were good kids, dont get me wrong but they were clearly out of position and not the best choice. The coaches for the other teams were complaining after every game how the coaches shouldnt have them playing on the 2nd team, etc.

 

Well, in the long run my son had a pretty fun year but it kind of turned him off to football and the politics behind it. He stopped playing and focused on hoops. He is now 6'2 190lbs and benches over 240lbs. He tells me all the time he wishes he stayed with it sometimes just to be out there on Friday nights playing DB. The other young man is a starting Defensive Back on the State Champion Bluebirds now as a Sr.

 

Only 1 of the 4 kids who got those starting positions that year on the 1st team even play football and one only gets minimal minutes in Varsity games on special teams for Highlands. One plays golf, the other is a soccer player and the last one plays Golf for Summit Country Day. All great kids I want to add as well but it just goes to show you that sometimes Daddy Ball can be obvious and detrimental to the growth of the program. But I do get it, you have to have volunteers coach and most likely in the younger years it is the Dads who step up.

 

BTW, I currently coach my Stepson and I try to remain as fair as possible with the kids and never give him preferential treatment. In fact I get some looks from him in practice like he wants to put a lick on me. LOL

I am the head coach for my youngest sons's Midget team in the NKYFL. He probably wishes I wasn't because I definately am harder on him than I am on the rest of the kids. I try to have my assistants deal with him as much as possible..No special treatment from this coach...lol

I coached for over 20 years in the Erlanger Lions program and I did not have a son that played. I also tried to get coaches to not coach there own kids and move to another level to coach. You only have so many volunteer's and that did not always work. It is hard to find good quality volunteer's to coach these days. I also when was on the NKYFL board try to put playing time in for all teams it got shot down. UK#1Fan I wish you the best of luck. JD

Sad part is my son is a better lineman than a few of the kids.

If your son is a good player then you need to keep him in NKYFL football. Playing against better competion makes your player better better than playing against other kids he can dominate. I don't think The nkyfl is for everybody, just like aau, and select basketball and baseball are'nt. Nkyfl is not as tough as it used to be but it is is an opportunity for your player to play up some. The organization of many of the school leagues have decimated the numbers in the nkyfl but have giving many kids the chance to play that never would have otherwise. I've coached those for the last few years and there are a lot of kids that should move up to more competive ball to improve their game.

 

 

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If your son is a good player then you need to keep him in NKYFL football. Playing against better competion makes your player better better than playing against other kids he can dominate. I don't think The nkyfl is for everybody, just like aau, and select basketball and baseball are'nt. Nkyfl is not as tough as it used to be but it is is an opportunity for your player to play up some. The organization of many of the school leagues have decimated the numbers in the nkyfl but have giving many kids the chance to play that never would have otherwise. I've coached those for the last few years and there are a lot of kids that should move up to more competive ball to improve their game.

 

 

 

 

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How would you rate the Sr Division? Possibly thinking about moving some kids to the NKYFL next year.

How would you rate the Sr Division? Possibly thinking about moving some kids to the NKYFL next year.

 

 

Pretty weak.. Most of the organizations don't have Senior Divison Teams. The Middle School League has killed the Senior Divison..

We have done the NKYFL, the Boone County Pee Wee League, Middle School League and the FTJFL. NKYFL was tons of Daddy coaches, and of course, their kids played both ways, entire game. Boone County was better, but still the same way, just not as bad. Middle School league allowed for 6th grade only games, and have now gone on to separate 7th and 8th grade teams, player numbers permitting. Finally wised up and got into the FTJFL. After only one practice, our son regained his love of the game. Spent his 8th grade on the green team with a tremendous group of coaches, none of which had kids on the team. No favoritism, but learned the game from state championship team players and some college players. There were kids from all over in the league. With teams being limited in size, the kids get a good amount of playing time, unlike the NKYFL that used to keep 60-80 players on a midget team and only play 15 or so every game.

 

All of the other groups were all about scores, championships, win at all costs, etc. Not the FTJFL, it's all about learning the game. They keep score,(at least in the older group, not sure about younger groups), but it's not for a championship. The only championship is the 8th grade game which combines ALL 8th grade players, wearing Highlands uniforms. Best part, is the speech given by Coach Mueller at the end of the game. All boys must sit with a player of the other team next to them, (blue jersey, white jersey, blue jersey, white jersey). There is no more division of blue, green, gold, or red teams.

 

Obviously your son is a starter, so FTJFL woudn't be an option now until he gets into 3rd grade. So you may want to stick with the NKYFL until then. Never hurts to stop by and check out a game at DCM...but don't tell anyone I said that..:sssh:

Pretty weak.. Most of the organizations don't have Senior Divison Teams. The Middle School League has killed the Senior Divison..

 

If your child is old enough to play middle school football, that's where he needs to play. For the most part, that's where most of the talent is. The NKYFL has had to bring in a team from Cincinnati just to fill schedules...and last year that team was using kids that were too old. Nearly all the talent is playing at the middle school level. Its just a better run league.....coaches that are trained in CPR, first aid, background checked and fingerprinted ( they are all either employees of the school district or certified volunteers), trainers on site at most games. Kids aren't playing 12-15 games a year either...it's just safer. Also, most teams have direct involvement with the high school programs and coaches.

If your child is old enough to play middle school football, that's where he needs to play. For the most part, that's where most of the talent is. The NKYFL has had to bring in a team from Cincinnati just to fill schedules...and last year that team was using kids that were too old. Nearly all the talent is playing at the middle school level. Its just a better run league.....coaches that are trained in CPR, first aid, background checked and fingerprinted ( they are all either employees of the school district or certified volunteers), trainers on site at most games. Kids aren't playing 12-15 games a year either...it's just safer. Also, most teams have direct involvement with the high school programs and coaches.

 

Not so sure about better run, there are many issues with the MS league. Now if they played true football then maybe it would be better run and better for the players. When you can only run one defense all season, and have a weight limit on skill positions (which means you have to put many kids out of their true positions and where they will play at the next level.)

Not so sure about better run, there are many issues with the MS league. Now if they played true football then maybe it would be better run and better for the players. When you can only run one defense all season, and have a weight limit on skill positions (which means you have to put many kids out of their true positions and where they will play at the next level.)

 

Doesn't seem to be an issue in Ft. Thomas. They have a weight limit for skilled positions.

Not so sure about better run, there are many issues with the MS league. Now if they played true football then maybe it would be better run and better for the players. When you can only run one defense all season, and have a weight limit on skill positions (which means you have to put many kids out of their true positions and where they will play at the next level.)

 

I don't know of any youth football league that DOESN'T have some sort of weight restriction for skill positions. Also, in the 5 years I've been around middle school football, I haven't seen many cases where a kid was forced to play out of position because they were too heavy, although I'm sure it has happened. As far as defense, how many defenses do you need to run?? There is so much blitzing going on in the youth leagues, that linebackers get to middle school and can't read keys, don't scrape well, can't play the pass, etc. the restrictive rules for defense, in my opinion do make better football players. Plus, you can still mix things up a little defensively, even though you are only allowed to play one defense.