Not a huge fan of quantitative analyzing. News is written and spoken so implications need to be accounted for, which is impossible with numbers. Like BGC said, majority of news is negative considering the circumstances America is in and it always will be a direct reflection of the Executive Office - regardless if it is rightfully deserved.

The CNN coverage is only of John King. Would be interesting to see the numbers from the entire lineup.

Not a huge fan of quantitative analyzing. News is written and spoken so implications need to be accounted for, which is impossible with numbers. Like BGC said, majority of news is negative considering the circumstances America is in and it always will be a direct reflection of the Executive Office - regardless if it is rightfully deserved.

 

We don't know how they rated a news item as positive or negative.

 

It would be great if we could hear a clip and then see how it was rated.

That's what I'm looking for, BGC.

 

So it's the content that drives it. Doesn't that seem to then take some of the "liberal bias" feeling away?

 

You beat me to it.

 

It would be instructive to see if something along the same percentages held in previous election cycles (negative reporting as a function of "the times").

That's what I'm looking for, BGC.

 

So it's the content that drives it. Doesn't that seem to then take some of the "liberal bias" feeling away?

 

Lets face it here is the overall tone of bias:

 

Papers - liberal. Driven by NYT. Everyone wants to emulate them.

Cable - pick your poison by channel. Fox is right CNBC is conservative due its business bend , CNN - left, MSNBC - left

Talk radio - right. Driven by Limbaugh wanna-bes.

 

So, in general there is bias in the print media and certainly (almost exclusively) in talk radio.

 

There are exception to the print media - Washington Times is certainly right oriented. Some of the fly-over country major papers are still conservative. But with NYT, LATimes, WaPo and the Gannett papers being left oriented the print media certainly has a general left bias.

 

To this day I love the movie "All the Presidents Men" and can watch end to end any time. The script came off the WaPo headlines. But I also like the Michael Keaton movie - "The Paper". In that fictional story they worried about getting it 'right'.

 

Today - they just worry 'how it will spin' I think. All of them.

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We don't know how they rated a news item as positive or negative.

 

They give a very vague description. They do make an effort to make sure we know the data was heavily collected through quantitative measurements. I simply disagree to focus on that. I have the opinion that that is not the best way to collect information. Especially when it comes to news.

 

If you end up getting a video or explanation, I would appreciate it.

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FACT they are biased.

I'm not looking for any validation. I don't know the source either.

 

What factors might we consider in determining how accurate? Do we automatically dismiss it because it doesn't fit the narrative?

 

Does it at least make you reconsider if you are a firm believer in the mantra?

 

Good question on what factors to consider. I guess in business we look at them and ask ourselves, does it make sense? Do these numbers makes sense given the election season and any facts we do know about the media.

FACT they are biased.

 

Opinion.

To me highlighting some of the cable sources is not telling me much. Particularly Fox News and MSNBC are filled with opinion talk shows on one side or the other. The hard news sources like newspapers, ABC, CBS, NBC, and NPR or the hard news on Fox News, MSNBC, and CNN is a better indicator.

 

Pew research found that (and my numbers are not exact, rather approximate) that around 85% in the media industry where left leaning, liberal, or whatever you want to call it. That does not mean they all go out and report in a bias fashion, most do their job fairly, but when that many are involved it is hard not to imagine that stories may have a slant or agendas are pushed by executives to cover one story or another, etc.

 

Pew research found that (and my numbers are not exact, rather approximate) that around 85% in the media industry where left leaning, liberal, or whatever you want to call it. T

 

How was that determination made?

How was that determination made?

If memory serves it was a series of ideological questions, maybe? Who they vote for, etc. It was from 2-3 years ago and I cannot find it. I will try again in a bit.

This may qualify as bias.

 

Where is the reporting of the US forces casualties in Afghanistan?

 

Here is a site that tracks that. 3 deaths yesterday. 6 deaths on the 1st and 2nd.

 

iCasualties | Operation Enduring Freedom | Afghanistan

I miss the Nixon years, When the news media went after dishonest politicians rather than cover for them.

Opinion.

 

News media are owned by Obama supporters, they wont show anything negative about him.