July 12, 201214 yr Again, why? They are a relatively new development, they didn't used to be standard procedure so why would they be a big deal now? What difference do they make in trying to decide who would best lead? And that is true for either document. I personally don't care as long he doesn't make himself out to be something he isn't.
July 12, 201214 yr I personally don't care as long he doesn't make himself out to be something he isn't. That would certainly be out of character for a politician, wouldn't it? Seriously, I don't know what returns could tell us that we don't already know. We know who's rich and who's super rich in politics. No one running for president for the major parties is hurting for money. About the only interesting thing to me is how generous they are with their contributions and most of them have already pumped them up in anticipation of running for office so they don't look so bad. Transcripts don't tell us anything in my opinion.
July 12, 201214 yr That would certainly be out of character for a politician, wouldn't it? Seriously, I don't know what returns could tell us that we don't already know. We know who's rich and who's super rich in politics. No one running for president for the major parties is hurting for money. About the only interesting thing to me is how generous they are with their contributions and most of them have already pumped them up in anticipation of running for office so they don't look so bad. Transcripts don't tell us anything in my opinion. Good point. :lol:
July 12, 201214 yr No. I don't use YouTube as proof of aliens, mermaids, the tooth fairy or faked birth certificates. Nor would I use a Tea Party website for verification in this matter, as they clearly have an agenda against the president and towards fear mongering. I do, however, pay attention to the fact checking sites, such as snopes and FactCheck, both of which negate your claim. You are still confused about the documents.. The document that Snopes and FactCheck are stating as real is Obamas Live Certificate of Birth. Not his actual Birth Certificate. They are two different things. The YouTube video is an actual news report including expert analysis.. The other article includes statements from Obamas lawyers that the certificate was computer generated.. And if you believe that Snopes and FactCheck are entirely unbiased and factual then I have some great beach front property for you..
July 12, 201214 yr You are still confused about the documents.. The document that Snopes and FactCheck are stating as real is Obamas Live Certificate of Birth. Not his actual Birth Certificate. They are two different things. The YouTube video is an actual news report including expert analysis.. The other article includes statements from Obamas lawyers that the certificate was computer generated.. And if you believe that Snopes and FactCheck are entirely unbiased and factual then I have some great beach front property for you.. The certificate of live birth is also known as the long form birth certificate. I'll takes snopes and FactCheck over the others every day of the week and twice on Sunday. If there is verifiable information it will be somewhere besides YouTube and tea party websites. Choose a source of your choice that doesn't also contain alien abductions as FACT or that Obama is the anti-Christ. However, I digress. This thread is about Romney.
July 12, 201214 yr So You will take Snopes and FC as reliable over computer experts and Obamas own attorneys.. I got ya. LOL Obama’s lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that the image of Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery and made the absurd claim that, therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to confirm his lack of natural born citizenship status.
July 12, 201214 yr Romney is the first true used car salesman to ever rub for President. I can see him working the lot at Marshall Motors:D He hasso far missed his calling. Jimmy Hoffa might be in the trunk offshoresomewhere ya know
July 12, 201214 yr Romney is the first true used car salesman to ever run for President. I can see him working the lot at Marshall Motors:D He hasso far missed his calling. Jimmy Hoffa might be in the trunk offshoresomewhere ya know
July 13, 201214 yr So You will take Snopes and FC as reliable over computer experts and Obamas own attorneys.. I got ya. LOL Obama’s lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that the image of Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery and made the absurd claim that, therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to confirm his lack of natural born citizenship status. Twist my words all you choose if that's what does it for you.
July 13, 201214 yr Twist my words all you choose if that's what does it for you.How did I twist these words ? "I'll takes snopes and FactCheck over the others every day of the week and twice on Sunday."
July 13, 201214 yr How did I twist these words ? "I'll takes snopes and FactCheck over the others every day of the week and twice on Sunday." Again...and for the last time. YouTube and tea party websites are less credible to me than snopes and FactCheck. Further, if their is evidence it will be available from credible sources.
July 13, 201214 yr I heard where Obama spokesperson indicated Romney committed felony fraud. Something to do about when he divested from Bains Capital. The people talking said that FactCheck and Washington Post have verified this was a 100% invalid and incorrect (sometimes called a lie) statement.
July 13, 201214 yr I heard where Obama spokesperson indicated Romney committed felony fraud. Something to do about when he divested from Bains Capital. The people talking said that FactCheck and Washington Post have verified this was a 100% invalid and incorrect (sometimes called a lie) statement. You are correct. This FactCheck article doesn't paint the Obama campaign in a very positive light at all. FactCheck.org : Romney’s Bain Years: New Evidence, Same Conclusion
July 13, 201214 yr I heard where Obama spokesperson indicated Romney committed felony fraud. Something to do about when he divested from Bains Capital. The people talking said that FactCheck and Washington Post have verified this was a 100% invalid and incorrect (sometimes called a lie) statement. You are correct. This FactCheck article doesn't paint the Obama campaign in a very positive light at all. FactCheck.org : Romney’s Bain Years: New Evidence, Same Conclusion
July 13, 201214 yr When did successful business owners become the villans? I thought the American dream was to be a successful business owner. I always thought it was a good thing to build companies, employ workers, and not live off the government. How many jobs has Obama created before he became Pres.? Ok, with Obama care, now he has created thousands of new IRS jobs that we the tax payers will be paying for. And I mean all tax payers, upper and middle and everyone inbetween. I don't care if Mit has money at the North Pole. He can do that. It is perfectly legal.
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