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Gary Carter, Kirby Puckett, Don Sutton, Phil Niekro and Jim Rice dont belong in HOF

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He's correct that Jack Morris belongs, and it is a crime he's not in.

 

There's a case that can be made that the aforementioned in the thread title weren't great (although I might disagree about Puckett and Rice), but simply very good. There are a lot of very good, but not great, players in the HOF who don't belong there, if that is Reggie's overall point.

 

Don Sutton was at best a No. 2 guy and was more successful as a No. 3 guy, and only once won 20 games, and could always be counted on for a 14-11 year, his career season average. Niekro lasted forever and piled up numbers, including 274 losses and more than 5,000 hits. Carter was third-best at the position in his era, behind Bench and Fisk, and in some years, Ted Simmons, Darrell Porter or Benito Santiago were better.

 

Puckett and Rice were at the top of their game in their peaks, but didn't have the longevity.

What's his overall point?

 

The bar is being lowered.

The bar is being lowered.

 

With Barry Larkin getting in, I would agree.

Doesn't Kirby deserve it just fir having the biggest face and smile in baseball history?

Would love to be a fly on the wall when Jim Rice and the "King of K's" meet. From '75 to '86 Rice was the most feared batter in the Majors, bar none.

 

Little trivia.....Who is the ONLY player in Major League history to have 3 consecutive seasons with at least: 200 hits, 100 runs scored, 35 or more HR's, 100 or more RBI's, & hit .315 or better..........Jim Rice '77, '78, & '79.

 

I'm surprised that Frank Thomas didn't do this when he was the "Big Hurt" in the early 90s.

I'm surprised that Frank Thomas didn't do this when he was the "Big Hurt" in the early 90s.

 

Frank Thomas never had a 200 hit season in his career. He always walked a ton so that kept his hits down.

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