Monday Memorial day May 28th weather forecast for Florence, Ky.

 

Memorial Day: Mostly sunny, with a high near 92.

 

Question for discussion:

 

We all know that if the humidity and temperatures combine to make it above (I believe) 103 or above, you can't play a football game. Now with the Ninth Region Tournament schedule to be played at The Florence Freedom Field and their all turf baseball field, if indeed it hits 92 or more and it's even a bit humid with the sun reflecting off that turf field, temps IMHO it will easily be above 103, for the afternoon and early evening games.

 

Now my question: Does the "KHSAA heat rule" apply to baseball? And if it does, do they start the games at 8am and play two games in the morning and two games late in the evening?

 

Now I would think if the games were being played on grass, this wouldn't be a problem with temperatures in the low 90's but on turf? I don't know and I am not even sure the rule comes into play but.......

 

Anyone?

Good question, but IMO, if you can play football in 103 then you should be able to play baseball in 120!! I know that's not the answer you are looking for though.

The heat policy does apply to all sports. There will be athletic trainers at the games on Monday and they will measure the heat/humidity throughout the day. I don't know who the "game administration" would be, but someone is ultimately responsible to carry a psychrometer to gage the heat index.

 

TOG, any reading of 100 degrees or higher in a baseball game would mandate a water break every 30 minutes. Any reading of 104 or higher would result in the cancellation of all games. Anything 99 or below, you're good to go.

 

Link:

http://www.khsaa.org/sportsmedicine/heat/kmaheatrecommendation.pdf

Good question, but IMO, if you can play football in 103 then you should be able to play baseball in 120!! I know that's not the answer you are looking for though.

 

I honestly don't know the rule.

 

I can tell you though that at one game last year at Cooper, the Cooper Trainer told both teams that if the temps hit hits a combine (again I believe 103) he was going to require both teams come to the bench and to get out of the heat. Both coaches sort a looked at the guy like huh....

 

Again just a question and I am honestly looking for an answer!

The heat policy does apply to all sports. There will be athletic trainers at the games on Monday and they will measure the heat/humidity throughout the day. I don't know who the "game administration" would be, but someone is ultimately responsible to carry a psychrometer to gage the heat index.

 

TOG, any reading of 100 degrees or higher in a baseball game would mandate a water break every 30 minutes. Any reading of 104 or higher would result in the cancellation of all games. Anything 99 or below, you're good to go.

 

Link:

http://www.khsaa.org/sportsmedicine/heat/kmaheatrecommendation.pdf

 

Thank you and I honestly wonder if the officials will take steps in advance to schedule the games as I suggested, or will they roll the dice and hope it doesn't hit those numbers?

 

Again, just asking questions!

Good question, but IMO, if you can play football in 103 then you should be able to play baseball in 120!! I know that's not the answer you are looking for though.

 

You can't play football in 103. In football, bc they wear a helmet (which traps heat), anything over 100 degrees puts you in a suspended state until the temp returns to 99 or reaches 104 for cancellation. Coaches are well aware of this rule and I assure you that if they're breaking it, they won't be coaching much longer.

There's a HUGE difference between football gear in the heat and baseball gear in the heat. I think that the big boys on the line during football season are more susceptible to heat-related injury as well. I played all of my high school sports in a so-called "temperate" climate, similar to N.Kentucky, and after a couple of practices in the heat you could cope. Eight years in the Marine Corps taught me that it takes a solid week to acclimatize to any new "situation".....whether it's hot,cold,humid,arid,high-altitude,low-altitude. Most Marines can do a 20mile hump in their sleep. Add a flak jacket,helmet, and so-called "lightweight" battle rifle to the mix and it's fun time. Add a 60 pound pack and it's something that they never forget having to do. My best advice is to keep them hydrated coaches. From all of the baseball that I've seen at Freedom Field(If that's what it's called these days) the players are in more danger from the turf.......slide early, gentlemen. That turf is like a slip n" slide, and those bases don't give.

There's a HUGE difference between football gear in the heat and baseball gear in the heat. I think that the big boys on the line during football season are more susceptible to heat-related injury as well. I played all of my high school sports in a so-called "temperate" climate, similar to N.Kentucky, and after a couple of practices in the heat you could cope. Eight years in the Marine Corps taught me that it takes a solid week to acclimatize to any new "situation".....whether it's hot,cold,humid,arid,high-altitude,low-altitude. Most Marines can do a 20mile hump in their sleep. Add a flak jacket,helmet, and so-called "lightweight" battle rifle to the mix and it's fun time. Add a 60 pound pack and it's something that they never forget having to do. My best advice is to keep them hydrated coaches. From all of the baseball that I've seen at Freedom Field(If that's what it's called these days) the players are in more danger from the turf.......slide early, gentlemen. That turf is like a slip n" slide, and those bases don't give.

 

I think that many forget the poor catcher! He has as much and or maybe even more gear on as any football players does playing the game! That mask he wears gets mighty hot and indeed don't forget the guy in Blue behind the plate. He isn't a kid and he is on the field the ENTIRE GAME in that heat!

Kids health and safety comes first. PERIOD!!!!

 

Break these types of rules today and you are looking at penalties that to some are incomprehensible.

I think that many forget the poor catcher! He has as much and or maybe even more gear on as any football players does playing the game! That mask he wears gets mighty hot and indeed don't forget the guy in Blue behind the plate. He isn't a kid and he is on the field the ENTIRE GAME in that heat!

 

Think about what you are saying here. The poor catcher is the first person that the trainers and the umpires are checking on and the old geezer behind the plate is the guy that is going to crack first so he is the one that is going to alert trainers and coaches first without even saying anything at all. LOL.

Think about what you are saying here. The poor catcher is the first person that the trainers and the umpires are checking on and the old geezer behind the plate is the guy that is going to crack first so he is the one that is going to alert trainers and coaches first without even saying anything at all. LOL.

 

SB, trust me, as a person who wore the tools back in the day as a catcher and a umpire, I understand that. I was just responding to Gomedog comment about Football players wearing all the equipment and not baseball players! :thumb:

SB, trust me, as a person who wore the tools back in the day as a catcher and a umpire, I understand that. I was just responding to Gomedog comment about Football players wearing all the equipment and not baseball players! :thumb:

 

Got ya......:thumb:BTW, not many football games starting at 11am either. Just a different game in general but at the end of the day it doesnt matter whether its baseball, football or (swimming?) the KHSAA heat rules apply to protect the kids.

And the sad thing is this is a State by State rule which really doesnt make any sense at all. You can either die by the heat or you can't, which is it folks.

Didnt a game get cancelled because of the heat happen a couple of fb seasons ago with CovCath at LaSalle?

I honestly don't know the rule.

 

I can tell you though that at one game last year at Cooper, the Cooper Trainer told both teams that if the temps hit hits a combine (again I believe 103) he was going to require both teams come to the bench and to get out of the heat. Both coaches sort a looked at the guy like huh....

 

Again just a question and I am honestly looking for an answer!

 

Isn't that done every 3 outs anyway? Sounds like in this case he was applying the soccer/football/lacross rules where there aren't breaks or shade for the players on the sidelines.

If the temperature hits above 100 you have to stop game. Here is part of the rules sent out to all ADs last year from Mr. Tackett:

 

It is important to note that for baseball and softball, because protective catching gear is required, games, as well as practice when the catcher is in gear, must be suspended when the heat index reaches 100. Coaches and administrators should carefully review game times and weather forecasts, particular for day time (likely weekend) competition, and make alternative plans in the case of suspension of lay.

We all know coach Grippa from LaSalle would have his team play, because their TOUGH!