Olddog58

I STAND CORRECTED... I was informed by one who is much smarter than I(which are many) that what was apparently changed was not the rule but the mechanic of when the ball crossed the goal line the whistle was to be blown immediately to indicate ball was dead. On free kicks as well as scrimmage kicks...

Didn't Holmes request to be dropped from 5A to 4A when Coach Lickert was there? It seemed they dropped out to get away from the two-headed beast ( Cov Cath & Highlands) only to be reacquainted when the next realignment happened...

Not for ALL kicks. It changed in early/mid 90s

Doubt what you want. I remember it being a very serious incident with a very serious litigation which included Riddel, officials, the KHSAA a couple of schools. Right after this they changed the rule that ALL kicks crossing the goal line becomes dead. Rule changes come about to prevent incidents that have happened before WHEREVER they happen. Now whatever problem you have with NKY get over it. No one claimed that the world revolved around NKY. The only obscure thing here is your thought process...

Sorry that I didn't make it more clear. The reason the rule was implemented (I believe) was from the incident that happened in Ky and thus the rule was adopted by the NFHS as a safety factor...

In Defense of the KHSAA and the Commish, It is my understanding that years ago (when there were only for classes) The big three of the officiating associations Lexington, Louisville, and Northern Ky used to get a championship game assigned to them each year and the fourth game was given to one of the remaining associations in the state. One of the other associations sued or threatened to file suit and they came up with a more "fair" way to spread out the championship assignments. Therefore they pick 2-3 officials from each association. If anyone can provide more info or clarify if this is still the way they do it I think it would answer a few questions about the quality of officiating in the championship games...

Thanks? I did not say it was only specific to Ky I was giving an explanation when and why it came into effect. Atleast as far as I can remember. I am not sure what point you are trying to make?

By a good source I was told sometime ago that a certain KHSAA official picked his "buddies" that he officiated college games with to work the championship games before the season started which caused some animosity. When "politics" starts from the top, where do you think the changes need to start?

The rule for ANY kicks crossing the goal line was put in place due to safety factors. If memory serves me correctly, back in the 90's a player was injured on a kick off (in NKY) during the playoffs. The visiting team kicked off after a score and the young man watched the ball go over his head. One of the kickoff coverage players hits the young man and caused a head injury. The discussion was about the play being over. Years ago coaches taught to play till the whistle. There was no whistle so play continued and incident happened. It was a major ordeal with the schools, refs, & the KHSAA. I won't state what the rule was called or any team names but you can look it up if anyone so desires. It's unfortunate that the refs got it wrong today but that question "what if" will forever linger...

You cannot advance a muff in high school. If the ball is carried into the end zone by the force of the kick than it is a touchback no matter who recovers it...

Have you heard of that little fella at SK Dillon Powell? You must not have...

Again penalties haven't been an issue because you haven't had any competition for several games. You can get the facts about a game other ways than being there first hand. I doubted Smith ability only by what I've seen, heard, & read. When he shows me something than I will believe it. Absolutely no hating hear just the facts....

I Maybe Bishop Bullwinkle from the First Church of Nothing but the Truth will show up and drop some truth on them...

And that changes the facts that Lloyd was stopping him how?

NCCs defense did dominate the game on a sophomore QB. That is a fact, can't deny it. If Danville comes and and takes my advice NCC will have a lot longer ride back to the lockeroom than Danville will have. If I am giving such bad advice to Danville why would you be arguing about it?

Yeah those are the only two games I have seen NCC in person. Go back and read ALL the posts by NCC fans have left on BGP that state "stupid penalties are killing us". Stats are what they are stats! Are you telling me that Smith had that more yards than stated? Yeah he went out in the 3rd quarter, maybe he was injured or maybe he was frustrated. He slammed the ball down a couple of times after he was stuffed. Lloyd didn't seem to have a problem stopping him...

Ok maybe I'll make it easier for you to understand. If someone gives them a challenge or makes it tough on them they do have problems with penalties. You are probably right that they haven't had to much competition in the playoffs so they haven't had problems with penalties. You look back at the teams who give them a game and they have self destructed. They get chippy, mouthy, down right dirty. Whatever you want to call it. I guarantee you that if Danville comes out and gives them a hard way to go the problem will rear its ugly head. They were the better team, had the better game plan,coaching and executed much better than Lloyd did last week.

The only bitterness is from you and those like you who don't read the facts: From the stats NCC provided the KHSAA Smith was 11 carries for 68 yards and 0 TDs. Lawnboy posted in game post (#58) that 1 run for Smith was for 54 yards. Simple public school math 68-54=14. So Smith had 14 yards on those other 10 carries for a titanic average of 1.4 per carry. So I would say it wasn't to difficult for him to be stopped...

Lloyd lost that game because a young sophomore QB was put into a position he shouldn't of been put. He's not accurate and knows who he is throwing to as he breaks the huddle no matter if double, triple, or quadruple coverage. He was pressured all night and didn't handle it well at all. To beat NCC just give them a game and they will self destruct with penalties. Stuff the middle and Smith is done. Harris is the one to watch IMO underrated all year...

I have never seen a Lloyd team so unprepared. The NCC defensive backs were sitting waiting on those picks...

I'll take Marksberry and the Pioneers by 21...

I'm going with Coach Wooley and the Eagles...28-20

This is the one game I would love to see live. Lex Cath looking ahead to the Boyle Co rematch, Garrard Co grinds it out in a close one. Good luck to both teams!

As long as Slusher is healthy, there is no one that can or will beat them.

The names Gaines, Townsend, Runion, Yero, Hatton, Jouett, Lunsford, Brunner, and Maynard will be echoing in the ears of WV fans all night. This year the Juggs are determined! 35-21