LSURock

Manual's success is at the expense of the other schools. They openly recruit and select only the best academics from the entire county. Students that would be the best and brightest of their real school must ride the bench at Manual where they are just one of the horde of geniuses.

I'm sure Dunbar has 10 times the land Trinity does.

I think that it is ironic that Manual supports this proposal. At the same time they are being lauded this week for having a record number of National Merit Scholar Semi-Finalists. Well, where do all these kids kids live? What schools would be getting the glory of their success if Manual had not been allowed to recruit them to Manual? Maybe the other schools should propose a rule to level the playing field so Manual wouldn't win all of the time. Where oh where are the Ram Brothers?

Proof of what? That they support the proposal? Its right there in black and white. I guess Manual really wants to be in the Big Two, even if they would be the second banana.

The answer to your first question is yes. I sent three kids to private school and paid full price while having the honor of paying my fair share to the public school system as well. With your thinking you might ask who would ever go to Notre Dame when they could go to IU for a fraction of the cost. FYI, the public schools don't teach what I want my kids to learn. Thats not an insult, its the law.

Free of tuition? Not likely.

Manual has made some progress, but..it isn't X or T that usually eliminates them from a title. Heck, last year they didn't even get a chance to play Male let alone X in the playoffs. With all due respect to Sass and Spears, the reports of Manual replacing Trinity in the Big 3 are a little premature. As far as being realistic goes, you have to get to the championship game to win a championship. X and T aren't your hurdle at this point.

If this All A thing is such a big deal why not separate B-ball into at least two classes and call the thing a state title? Most people that are against splitting up B-ball are holding on to some nostalgic "Hoosiers" type of vision of high school B-ball. Well the fact is the real "Hoosiers" split their title into classes.

Not true, if that were the case the Kentucky All-Stars would suit up about a dozen players.

The fact is the result would be bad for both parties. The private school athletic budgets would skyrocket with all the travel. The kids would lose the chance to have traditional rivalries with local schools. The public schools would know that the title they won didn't include competition with the best teams. Ther is no reason to do this, the result would weaken Kentucky high school football and all other sports.

No, my senario isn't a dream its a nightmare for all involved. Newsflash, I'm aware of the fact that public school is cheaper than tuition even if there would be a great increase in the public school population. However, that is because the tax burden would be proposed over a cross section of residents that don't use the services directly. If you think that the people of Kentucky would welcome a tax increase of any kind you are out of touch with reality. Thats fact not fiction. I am also aware that I pay double for my kids education. I do this because I feel that the public schools fail to provide my kids with the kind of education that I feel is important. When you stack Kentucky's public schools against public schools nationwide, if you can make an argument that they are anything but failing you must have some pretty good oratory skills.Please save the speech about recent improvements, where are we now? So I would suggest that you heed your own advice and take a little ride on the reality train.

Thanks, you've made my point again. You made these same claims last year as if the government has a machine just cranking out those "growth nickels". And what about the buildings? I guess there are just surplus school buildings to house all these newfound students? No, they would have to be built using tax dollars. The point is you probably are on the "raise taxes, its just a lack of funds" excuse side of the coin. As far as the teachers go, what makes you think that they are just dying to work in your system? They are qualified (some have worked there before) but they work for less in most cases. Wonder why? No, I don't think there would be the transition you project. I think the fact is that the public schools fail and that creates the need and desire for private schools. If my senario actually took place, it would create chaos.

OK, you have convinced me. Lets close all the private schools. One question, where should all the kids report to school tomorrow?

So you are saying that private schools receive public funds to educate their students? If a disadvantaged kid receives benefits that supplies him with food, that is no benefit to a school. Although I think it is a little slippery of you to ignore part B of my point. Is a free lunch financial aid? Or is it a benefit for a student that the school helps facilitate? That is probably true of those other programs I'm "uninformed" about. Back to the original point, I asked you to give some examples where a private school is funded by public funds. I guess maybe in your world a simple "Wow. OK, will just leave it at that" will do but in the real world we like actual answers.

Pretty slippery of you. I would guess that those programs benefit students not schools. I don't know of any program that pays the school to provide free lunch, however if you now consider this financial aid it conflicts with the KHSAA attempt of last year to exclude students receiving financial aid. This new definition would exclude a great number (unjustly I might add) of public school athletes.I see a good number of private school kids waiting for TARC busses, I guess you could call a student bus pass a benefit. I can't believe that the almighty NEA and ACLU would allow private schools to recieve public funds. I would say for the most part the answer to your question is no. If you have any facts to the contrary please share.

Start at the top. Please tell us about the funding that private schools receive the state. The poster said they didn't receive any, you claim they do, make your case.

Tell us where he is incorrect.

Yeah thats it, admit defeat. All is lost. It will be interesting to see if the schools that vote for this actually ever won everything. In that case wouldn't we be rewarding the losers by allowing them to change the rules in their favor. Newsflash, the losers will continue to lose and the current winners will continue to win. I guess if there are no 275# linemen or 6'7" front court players in all counties, those types of players should outlawed as well. Or maybe the government would force them to be bussed evenly around the state.

I am told that any student outside of the area served by "city" schools must pay a fee (tuition). Are there any cases where students receive aid in paying these fees? If so, the groundwork has already begun to eliminate these so called public schools as well. Last years motion tried to eliminate any athlete that received financial aid. I guess free tuition, books, transportation and sometimes meals don't count. I'm sure that the "great levelers" won't be content to just banish the private schools. They will soon seek to limit the traditionally successful public schools to their "fair share" of winning in due time.

First of all its a school. Schools have sports teams if there is enough interest in their student body to create a team. Their are many schools that serve very sparsely populated areas with similar issues. But lets not forget that the first function of the school is educate the kids, plain and simple. I don't know of it happening but what if some kid at Central in the west end of Louisville wanted to be a part of some FFA competition? Should we complain that all the rural schools have all the good farm land and livestock? Should we level the playing field? FYI, life's playing field isn't level but in America we take pride in the quest for victory as much as the victory itself.

You must have me cofused with someone else. Never did I post that my son attended Trinity to be on a winning team. In fact he enrolled at Trinity at a time when they were doing about as poorly in football as they had ever done in their recent history. All I'm saying is that character can be built in many ways. Winning and losing builds certain elements. Frankly, I didn't rely on my kids school for such things. You should know that a great number of the kids on the Trinity and X roster wouldn't be stars at another school. Many of the kids just really enjoy the fellowship and sense of team spirit that is involved on those teams. I guess you could say that we have more than our fair share of "Rudys".

Tenn. split up football a few years ago. About the same time they started losing to Kentucky in the All-Star game. Tenn. has slipped year after year since the split.

You are wrong. It passed. It was not OKed by the board of control.

What are you talking about? What issues? In effect, put up or shut up!!! This board is about football. You are way out of line.