Gretchen Stephenson

Campbell County 3 vs. George Rogers Clark 0 10th Region (25-17, 25-12, 25-16)

Baffling to me that there is no press coverage of this event. Unless I missed it. If I did, can someone post links?

NDA won Frosh, JV and Varsity (3-1)

Yes there were often girls who only played middle school ball come out for the team. The fall sports at NDA have freshman “sign up” for tryouts at the spring Open House. They were all put on an email distribution list and contacted as a group about summer open gyms and tryouts. We did not go through the list and determine who played club and who didn’t.

There is so much misinformation on this board. I was on volleyball coaching staff at NDA five years ago. Everyone who wanted to tryout got to tryout. Not one person was ever turned away.

I was on the volleyball coaching staff five years ago and I promise you no one was ever turned away from tryouts at NDA. We had girls come out for the team who couldn’t even serve over hand so they obviously had only ever played middle school ball. Everyone gets a fair shot and the best are chosen regardless of club experience and/or club affiliation.

Having coached volleyball at NDA and having two daughters more recently go thru the volleyball program, I can tell you the volleyball coaches do not care one bit if girls play other sports at NDA. Most NDA volleyball players play club because they know to “make the team” they need to play volleyball year round. They also have goals of playing in college and that happens from club exposure, not high school. In the past four graduating classes, almost all the players could have or did go on to play in college. I know for a fact the past two head volleyball coaches never said anything to athletes who played more than one sport. Prior to that, Bob Wood and Kim Gunning before him, actively encouraged multiple sport athletes. I don’t know anything about the basketball program at NDA but did want to add my two cents about volleyball since it is mentioned several times.

Not accurate information regarding NDA region 9 titles won in a row.

Wanted to give everyone an update since you were all so helpful and this seems to be a somewhat common injusry. After 5 weeks of intense rehab with Chris Coleman, two cortisone shots and treatment with Andy Shetterly (awesome guy for young athletes), Lainey was still in significant pain. Her labrum tear is directly impacting her bicep. The tear continually irritates the bicep where it inserts into the shoulder, causing inflammation and subsequent pain. Dr. Greiwe has advised her to have a procedure called Biceps Tedonisis - remove the head of the bicep from the shoulder and reattach it to the humerus. This is a 30 minute procedure and should give her immediate relief. He will also "clean up" the edges of the tear and any scar tissue. She is having this done tomorrow and will be in a sling for 4 weeks with total rehab of 4 months. It's an unfortunate turn of events but no fault of the Doctor, PT, or Lainey. I truly believe the PT would have worked had the tear not been located where it was. If all goes well...she will return to the court with her Panda teammates by mid September. Thanks again to everyone for their info and support. I will post an update as things progress.

I knew I had to leave for the Pandas to win!! Thx for the update. I pulled over to read them.

Thanks everyone for the great advice and for sharing your stories. Lainey and I went to Dr. Greiwe yesterday and his evaluation was the same as Dr. Kremcheck. He said surgery to repair the labrum would be a mistake in this case. He said they are trending towards not repairing labral tears in volleyball players. He said her pain is not from the labrum but from the biceps rubbing on the jagged edge of the tear. He said they may consider smoothing that edge if the irritation continues. He gave her a "steroid" shot into the shoulder and said that will "calm" the inflammation. We are consulting with Dr. Steine today regarding a procedure where he will harvest Lainey's stem cells and platelets and inject them into the shoulder. This should speed healing. Dr. Greiwe's opinion was that this procedure doesn't help much for labral tears (not enough blood circulation). We have decided to do the consult anyway (Dr. Steine works directly with Dr. Kremcheck at Beacon). Lainey hasn't decided which doctor will continue her care. She loves the PT at Beacon. We are meeting with the "overhead sports guy" at St. E Sports Medicine (Chris Coleman) on Monday. I think she will decide on the doctor based on the PT which makes sense because the PT will be largely responsible for her return. Does anyone have good or not so good experiences with Chris Coleman? Conclusion...we are very hopeful she will be ready to go by August 1. Her college coach is encouraged by all of this and very supportive. NKYVC (vball club) has been awesome in offering resources and support and her coaches at NDA have been open and concerned as well. Lots of good people in our lives. Thank you again for the advice and support.

Thanks for the feedback. Interesting that your son tried both approaches. We see Dr. Greiwe on Tuesday so I am encouraged to hear he is open to both the idea of surgery and rehab only. Sorry for your son but glad he is back on the field.

Thankfully, the rest of her shoulder is in great shape. It has never dislocated, her biceps tendon and rotator cuff are not involved. It is truly isolated to her labrum. Did your son have a Bankhsrt Tear? We have talked to WSU re surgery and they were supportive as they have had a few vball players who have gone thru it. Since we got the rehab only option, I emailed them (yesterday) but no reply. My daughter talks to them every Sunday so we will ask them tomorrow. Dr K is the team Dr for WSU baseball team and said he has had some baseball players from there rehab only, all with success. I haven't found any volleyball players who even tried this option. I am sorry for your son as well. These kids play hard, harder and longer than we did that's for sure. I hate they have to go through any of this. My other daughter tore her ACL playing softball in 9th region final a couple years ago. Had to sit out NDA trip to State. She was a junior as wel. Surgery and rehab and was back for every game of her senior year. Hard to watch her go through it.

My daughter dove for a ball and, with an outstretched arm, landed on the hardwood. We thought it was just hypertended. She took a week Off from overhead motions, rehabbed a little, iced and has just been playing with it. When WSU asked about her serve being off from last club season and the pain was getting worse as club progressed we got the MRI and official diagnosis. I know a baseball player who tore his sliding back to first base after the pitcher tried to pick him off.

My daughter is a volleyball player and tore her labrum. She has a SLAP tear (Type 1) that will require 2 anchors to repair. We got a second opinion from Dr. Kremchek. He is recommending intense rehab, no playing during that time and claims if she is dedicated and works hard, the labrum will heal on its own. The rehab is directed at her back, scapular muscles and core. She has imbalances in her strength that, when addressed, will take the strain off the front of her shoulder. My question - has anyone's kid been thru this type of treatment for a torn labrum? What were the results? There is not a lot of research out there on this. I think holding off on surgery is always a good idea but her senior season looms about 4 months away and she would like to play some of her last season at NDA. She has a full ride to Wright State and that is our priority but we all know how kids feel about their senior seasons. Anyway, any and all educated, experiences opinions are appreciated. Thanks.

I have heard the recovery is tough and even more difficult the older you are older Dr. K said her shoulder looks excellent, rotator cuff is great, biceps tendon is not impacted at all. I only question because it seems like the uncommon recommendation not only locally but also across the nation - very lfew studies done.

Yes she had an MRI with dye (arthrogram i think they called it). And I agree Dr. Kremchek opinion should be "weighted" because of his experience and expertise.

Clyde - can you remember if your son had a SLAP tear? What level? How long did he have to rehab before being a full release to play was given?

The first opinion was surgery with two anchors/sutures to repair. Estimates recovery time 4-5 months. Most athletes her age and level get back to about 80% of their pre injury level of play.

I am not sure where to post this but since a torn labrum is a common baseball injury, I thought I would start here. My daughter is a volleyball player and tore her labrum. She has a SLAP tear (Type 1) that will require 2 anchors to repair. We got a second opinion from Dr. Kremchek. He is recommending intense rehab for 4-6 weeks, no playing during that time and claims if she is dedicated and works hard, the labrum will heal on its own. The rehab is directed at her back, scapular muscles and core. She has imbalances in her strength that, when addressed, will take the strain off the front of her shoulder. My question - has anyone's kid been thru this type of treatment for a torn labrum? What were the results? There is not a lot of research out there on this. I think holding off on surgery is always a good idea but her senior season looms about 4 months away and she would like to play some of her last season at NDA. She has a full ride to Wright State and that is our priority but we all know how kids feel about their senior seasons. Anyway, any and all educated, experiences opinions are appreciated. Thanks.

I have been a long time lurker on this site. It continually amazes and baffles me that grown adults sit around and type about young people and members of our community. The negativity and criticism leveled by those on this board at fellow citizens in our community (either about their play, their effort, their attitudes, their decisions, etc) is beyond the pale. The criticism of coaches who basically volunteer their time only to be laid out on forums like this by people who hide behind screen names, makes me fully understand why all the good coaches are gone, in part because of people like you. Not to mention the young athletes who read this site. Kelly Schmahl is a member of our community. Yes, she made a serious, agregious mistake and probably committed a crime. She is most certainly dealing with demons that none of us will ever understand. Instead of being thankful that you nor your loved ones have to deal with these issues, you choose to completely demoralize this young person and her family. What she did by faking this awful disease is a cry for help, in my opinion. I am certain that she is finally getting it. It is none of anyone's business besides her family, the police and those she defrauded (and I am pretty sure beside paNDA and maybe, InItToWinIt) that is probably none of you. I have known Kelly and her family since she was in middle school. They are honest people and I am certain knew nothing of this scam by Kelly. I am continually amazed that people will sit behind screen names and throw daggers at people they don't know, about a situation they have only heard about on the news. Please let's just stop. Bluegrass Preps could be a great place to share good news, ask questions, and even level criticism that is not personal. However, I firmly behlieve it should not be anonymous. Step up and sign your names if you want to be a part of this. This was not a victimless crime but what good is done by typing your hate, speculation and judgment on this message board? It helps no one. These are real people you are talking about, remember that, they may even read what you write. It is all so hurtful yet unnecessary. Sincerely, Gretchen Stephenson

Kathryn Plummer was PAC12 Frosh of the Year. Morgan was on the PAC12 All Frosh Team.

"The only girls that have it easy are the ones beting recruited by Division I schools in their 10th grade year." The above is completely untrue. I have had two daughters play D1, both "recruited" 9/10th grade, they worked their tail ends off to be in that position. Weekly phone calls to no less than 10 college coaches, editing game tape and compiling into highlights, emailing, completing questionnaires, all while playing Open level club, practice 3 times a week, private lesson once a week, tutor for school once a week and college prep classes carrying a 3.6+ GPA. The recruiting process is hard work and mentally exhausting for all involved at any level.

Another example of strong club training paying off but this time it is a public school. Kudos to Henry Clay for being the first public school in recent history (probably ever) to legitimately make it to the final by beating one of the Big Four (Mercy in this case) on the way.

I think you answered your own question.