February 15, 201214 yr Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!! release oil reserves stop the speculators (control the speculators) can do anything they want, they are the government Before I respond I need to verify that it was a serious response.
February 15, 201214 yr I recall reading an article about what the government would be able to do to decrease gasoline prices in the short term. Some things mentioned were releasing the reserves, lowering or eliminating the taxes, easing the winter/summer formula rules and something about regulating the speculators but I can't remember how they would do that.
February 15, 201214 yr Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!! release oil reserves stop the speculators (control the speculators) can do anything they want, they are the government This post reaffirms my suspicions that you have no logical comprehension of how gas prices are controlled...
February 15, 201214 yr I recall reading an article about what the government would be able to do to decrease gasoline prices in the short term. Some things mentioned were releasing the reserves, lowering or eliminating the taxes, easing the winter/summer formula rules and something about regulating the speculators but I can't remember how they would do that. Reserves: The US has about 38 days worth of supply in reserves. That's not a lot. Hasn't this supply historically only been tapped in emergencies (Katrina, for example)? While I guess it could have an impact I can't imagine a POTUS using it to gain favor. Taxes: I would imagine states would balk at this since their revenue would decrease. Could be done only at the Federal level. Summer formula rules: Could work. Small dent though I would think on a per-gallon basis. Specualtors: I don't see this one having a great impact. I read they could decrease speculation by increasing by requiring higher margin requirements. Not sure how fast that would have an impact. What can't be ignored is the fact that oil prices are not determined by the U.S. They are determined by the world market. Just today oil went up because Iran is talking about limiting exports. Even though it probably will not happen it still had an impact. Demand around the world is increasing with China driving a lot of it. We can't control that yet it impacts our prices. You do not "control" the speculators or the market as Mt Ref suggests the govt can do. Myth. The line by Mt Ref saying "they're the govt they can do whatever they want" is asinine. Secondly, the POTUS cannot do anything he wants . He'd have to gain support from Congress for any type of change to rules. You think Wall St is going to pitch a fit about speculation changes? You think they have an ear or 400 in DC? I'd say the one you listed that would be most likely is the tax suspension.
February 15, 201214 yr The last I heard in Louisville it was $.25 a gallon extra when the summer blend goes into effect. I would take that savings. I can't verify this but I've also heard that because of all the "cafe" gasolines that different localities use, if just one blend were used where it could be mass produced and shipped anywhere it would have a significant impact on the price per gallon.
February 15, 201214 yr Reserves: The US has about 38 days worth of supply in reserves. That's not a lot. Hasn't this supply historically only been tapped in emergencies (Katrina, for example)? While I guess it could have an impact I can't imagine a POTUS using it to gain favor. Taxes: I would imagine states would balk at this since their revenue would decrease. Could be done only at the Federal level. Summer formula rules: Could work. Small dent though I would think on a per-gallon basis. Specualtors: I don't see this one having a great impact. I read they could decrease speculation by increasing by requiring higher margin requirements. Not sure how fast that would have an impact. What can't be ignored is the fact that oil prices are not determined by the U.S. They are determined by the world market. Just today oil went up because Iran is talking about limiting exports. Even though it probably will not happen it still had an impact. Demand around the world is increasing with China driving a lot of it. We can't control that yet it impacts our prices. You do not "control" the speculators or the market as Mt Ref suggests the govt can do. Myth. The line by Mt Ref saying "they're the govt they can do whatever they want" is asinine. Secondly, the POTUS cannot do anything he wants . He'd have to gain support from Congress for any type of change to rules. You think Wall St is going to pitch a fit about speculation changes? You think they have an ear or 400 in DC? I'd say the one you listed that would be most likely is the tax suspension. Well said Clyde. :thumb:
February 15, 201214 yr Reserves: The US has about 38 days worth of supply in reserves. That's not a lot. Hasn't this supply historically only been tapped in emergencies (Katrina, for example)? While I guess it could have an impact I can't imagine a POTUS using it to gain favor. Taxes: I would imagine states would balk at this since their revenue would decrease. Could be done only at the Federal level. Summer formula rules: Could work. Small dent though I would think on a per-gallon basis. Specualtors: I don't see this one having a great impact. I read they could decrease speculation by increasing by requiring higher margin requirements. Not sure how fast that would have an impact. What can't be ignored is the fact that oil prices are not determined by the U.S. They are determined by the world market. Just today oil went up because Iran is talking about limiting exports. Even though it probably will not happen it still had an impact. Demand around the world is increasing with China driving a lot of it. We can't control that yet it impacts our prices. You do not "control" the speculators or the market as Mt Ref suggests the govt can do. Myth. The line by Mt Ref saying "they're the govt they can do whatever they want" is asinine. Secondly, the POTUS cannot do anything he wants . He'd have to gain support from Congress for any type of change to rules. You think Wall St is going to pitch a fit about speculation changes? You think they have an ear or 400 in DC? I'd say the one you listed that would be most likely is the tax suspension. Found the article from about a year ago. http://www.dailyfinance.com/2011/03/08/five-ways-the-government-could-make-oil-prices-fall/ If I'm adding it up correctly he calculates that $1.50 per gallon could be knocked off the price of gas. Obviously it would be a short term solution. Like about 45 days before the election. Just to clarify, I don't see it happening. I'm just saying it looks like it could be a possibility.
February 16, 201214 yr Author Well said Clyde. :thumb: How would I ever know you would disagree with me on anything I may say. I'm sure you would disagree with me if I said Obama was a black man, I'm sure you would spin it to try to make him white. As for the government can do anything they want, I stand by that. Our government can make car companies (especially since they own one know) make cars get better gas mileage. I mean if we have technology to have space shuttles, laser guided missiles, stealth bombers, etc, then we can make a mini van that gets 50-70 mpg.
February 16, 201214 yr How would I ever know you would disagree with me on anything I may say. I'm sure you would disagree with me if I said Obama was a black man, I'm sure you would spin it to try to make him white. As for the government can do anything they want, I stand by that. Our government can make car companies (especially since they own one know) make cars get better gas mileage. I mean if we have technology to have space shuttles, laser guided missiles, stealth bombers, etc, then we can make a mini van that gets 50-70 mpg. 1. History says that UKMF and I sometimes , if not often, disagree politically. 2. Your car company example still does not back up your "govt can do anything" line when it comes to gas prices. 3. Any legislation that would need to be passed that would help the President in the eyes of voters HAS to include support from Republicans. You think they're suddenly going to vote on a piece of legislation that would help improve his chances of retaining 1600 Pennsylvania?
February 16, 201214 yr Author In dire times, both sides usually come together. When we go to war with Iran, then it will be a dire time. Do we have the technology to do the previous said?
February 16, 201214 yr In dire times, both sides usually come together. When we go to war with Iran, then it will be a dire time. Do we have the technology to do the previous said? In your opinion does the current situation rise up to the level of "dire" in regards to tapping the reserves? They're not unlimited reserves.
February 16, 201214 yr Author In your opinion does the current situation rise up to the level of "dire" in regards to tapping the reserves? They're not unlimited reserves. Not tapping the reserves, but it is dire times for the economy and us low middle class workers who have a hard time getting bills paid for like gas, electric, food, house, car payments. It is impossible to spend money in other places that help other businesses like restaurants, clothing stores, sporting events of my kids. Lower gas prices and it does help a lot. I do know demand is up in other growing countries and any problem in the M.E. causes speculators to jump oil up. It should be against the law to raise prices 20 to 30 cents in a matter of 1day.
February 16, 201214 yr Not tapping the reserves, but it is dire times for the economy and us low middle class workers who have a hard time getting bills paid for like gas, electric, food, house, car payments. It is impossible to spend money in other places that help other businesses like restaurants, clothing stores, sporting events of my kids. Lower gas prices and it does help a lot. I do know demand is up in other growing countries and any problem in the M.E. causes speculators to jump oil up. It should be against the law to raise prices 20 to 30 cents in a matter of 1day. Why?
February 16, 201214 yr Author Why? It is robbery, one day 3.00 a gallon, next day 3.50 a gallon. So much for tourism.
February 16, 201214 yr 1. History says that UKMF and I sometimes , if not often, disagree politically. 2. Your car company example still does not back up your "govt can do anything" line when it comes to gas prices. 3. Any legislation that would need to be passed that would help the President in the eyes of voters HAS to include support from Republicans. You think they're suddenly going to vote on a piece of legislation that would help improve his chances of retaining 1600 Pennsylvania? Not if the illustrious Addison Mitchell McConnell, Jr. has anything to say about it.
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