Let me ask around and see what I can find...

I've heard that they might not be eligible to wrestle this year.

 

I don't know the situation. However, under KHSAA rules if they participated in a varsity sport in the past year at another high school, they are automatically ineligible. To become eligible, they must file an appeal to the KHSAA and claim one of the exceptions as a reason why they should be eligible. Then the KHSAA has to rule whether their situation qualifies as an exception. It does seem the KHSAA is being more lenient on these transfers. The Pouncy kid at Holy Cross comes to mind. He played varsity football at Ludlow and then was somehow able to find an exception under the KHSAA rules that enabled him to play for Holy Cross the very next season.

Let me ask around and see what I can find...

Thanks.

I don't know the situation. However, under KHSAA rules if they participated in a varsity sport in the past year at another high school, they are automatically ineligible. To become eligible, they must file an appeal to the KHSAA and claim one of the exceptions as a reason why they should be eligible. Then the KHSAA has to rule whether their situation qualifies as an exception. It does seem the KHSAA is being more lenient on these transfers. The Pouncy kid at Holy Cross comes to mind. He played varsity football at Ludlow and then was somehow able to find an exception under the KHSAA rules that enabled him to play for Holy Cross the very next season.

I'm pretty sure they wrestled in a match for Grant County this year but not 100% positive.

4 schools so far for the boys. That's not good.

 

Maybe the grass is always greener, then greener, then greener, .....:idunno:

I still can't find a definitive answer regarding their eligibility for this year.

I still can't find a definitive answer regarding their eligibility for this year.

 

If I read the rules correctly they COULD wrestle for CC this year even if they wrestled for Grant this season. If the KHSAA says they meet the exception requirements listed in 6.2 then they could wrestle this year.

If I read the rules correctly they COULD wrestle for CC this year even if they wrestled for Grant this season. If the KHSAA says they meet the exception requirements listed in 6.2 then they could wrestle this year.

 

True Clyde. The exceptions are there for all to see and use. Plus, as I said above, the KHSAA seems to be more lenient these days. e.g. Sullivan at NCC, Pouncy at Holy Cross. It just depends on the specifics of their situation, which we likely will never know if they get eligible because the KHSAA keeps it all private. Not a good move IMO as it creates suspicion and speculation.

If I read the rules correctly they COULD wrestle for CC this year even if they wrestled for Grant this season. If the KHSAA says they meet the exception requirements listed in 6.2 then they could wrestle this year.

I would say it's very possible that this happened:

 

a) BONA FIDE CHANGE IN RESIDENCE- The period of ineligibility

may be waived if there has been a bona fi de change in residence

by the parents and student that precedes a student’s change of

schools.

For purposes of this bylaw, a bonafide change of residence

means the moving of the permanent residence of the entire

family of the student and the student’s parents from one school

district or defined school attendance area into another school

district or defined school attendance area prior to a change in

enrollment of the student. A student who becomes emancipated

does not have a bona fide change of residence by virtue of his

or her emancipation and change of residence for purposes of

this bylaw.

 

But, once you get to 6.3 there are reasons for denial, one of which I think they most definitively meet.

 

Sec. 3) Specific Restrictions Resulting in Denial of Waiver

Satisfying of one of the exceptions (Section 2, a through i) shall

not be considered valid and a waiver of the period of ineligibility

shall not be granted:

 

c) If the change in schools is motivated in whole or part by a desire

to participate in athletics at the new school;

 

I do not know enough about previous KHSAA rulings on transfers but I believe this move is motivated ENTIRELY "by a desire to participate in athletics at the new school." Hard to see it as anything but that.

I would say it's very possible that this happened:

 

a) BONA FIDE CHANGE IN RESIDENCE- The period of ineligibility

may be waived if there has been a bona fi de change in residence

by the parents and student that precedes a student’s change of

schools.

For purposes of this bylaw, a bonafide change of residence

means the moving of the permanent residence of the entire

family of the student and the student’s parents from one school

district or defined school attendance area into another school

district or defined school attendance area prior to a change in

enrollment of the student. A student who becomes emancipated

does not have a bona fide change of residence by virtue of his

or her emancipation and change of residence for purposes of

this bylaw.

 

But, once you get to 6.3 there are reasons for denial, one of which I think they most definitively meet.

 

Sec. 3) Specific Restrictions Resulting in Denial of Waiver

Satisfying of one of the exceptions (Section 2, a through i) shall

not be considered valid and a waiver of the period of ineligibility

shall not be granted:

 

c) If the change in schools is motivated in whole or part by a desire

to participate in athletics at the new school;

 

I do not know enough about previous KHSAA rulings on transfers but I believe this move is motivated ENTIRELY "by a desire to participate in athletics at the new school." Hard to see it as anything but that.

 

I hear you but the Myers are not going to say it is because of athletics. They will come up with some other sort of reason and as long as it has a ring of truth to it, the KHSAA will likely allow them to participate, especially if they did move. I don't think Pouncy at Holy Cross or Sullivan at NCC even moved and they somehow got eligible.

my understanding is that Mr Myers went to the KHSAA and was granted that the kids would be elegible if they did infact move, before they actually moved. The boys are wrestling for Campbell Co now.

my understanding is that Mr Myers went to the KHSAA and was granted that the kids would be elegible if they did infact move, before they actually moved. The boys are wrestling for Campbell Co now.

 

And there you go. Just take the transfer rules and throw them in the trash. What the rules are now is anyone's guess.

And there you go. Just take the transfer rules and throw them in the trash. What the rules are now is anyone's guess.

 

not necessarily, rather than just moving the kids and dealing with the concequences, it seems as if Dad went to the KHSAA and asked what his options where, and told them his plans and the KHSAA granted approval for him to do so. In order for the KHSAA to grant permission for this move, there had to be some sort of legitamite reasoning. Not to go off topic but, Grant Co has had some issues in the last few years internally, Basketball, Football, Board of Education members, issues with Administration at the High School, etc, perhaps this was more than just athletic move.

my understanding is that Mr Myers went to the KHSAA and was granted that the kids would be elegible if they did infact move, before they actually moved. The boys are wrestling for Campbell Co now.

For the kids sake, I hope this works out for them.

not necessarily, rather than just moving the kids and dealing with the concequences, it seems as if Dad went to the KHSAA and asked what his options where, and told them his plans and the KHSAA granted approval for him to do so. In order for the KHSAA to grant permission for this move, there had to be some sort of legitamite reasoning. Not to go off topic but, Grant Co has had some issues in the last few years internally, Basketball, Football, Board of Education members, issues with Administration at the High School, etc, perhaps this was more than just athletic move.

 

There is nothing in the rules that allows that. In fact, in the KHSAA handbook it specifically says that the exceptions listed are the only exceptions.

 

Case BL-6-22- Is it permissible for a student who changes schools during a season to represent a second school in the sport that year?

No, he/she is ineligible under the provisions of Bylaw 6, Section 4 ©. The Ruling officer/Commissioner may waive the period of ineligibility only under the specific enumerated exceptions outlined in Bylaw 6, Section 2.

 

However, this complaint about a problem at the previous school might be the common loophole that is being used in these cases. Of course, we are all guessing because the KHSAA apparently does not talk about their rulings. So who knows? But, it looks like it is a free for all now in Kentucky. Transfer and go where ever you want whenever you want and the KHSAA will let it happen.