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You Make the Call: Backcourt

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Was that one question or 3?

 

 

That was 3. My fault.

 

 

Carrying/palming. What is that rule? I feel like what I think is carrying is only called half of the time.

 

Over the back. Same here. Is this a judgment call? Seems it is only called half of the time as well.

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Another backcourt scenario:

 

A1 has the ball in the frontcourt. He goes to pass the ball but B1 blocks the pass. The ball hits A1 in the frontcourt and then goes to the backcourt area. A1 goes to get it and is the only one to touch it in the backcourt. Now what?

You are correct that it's not a violation. If the pass were to come from a player inbounds it would be. The throw-in rule allows for this.

 

UNLESS the ball is tipped by a defender. If so, the play I described would be a backcourt violation.

 

 

I'm confused. I thought in the play you described the pass was coming from a throw in.

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That was 3. My fault.

 

 

Carrying/palming. What is that rule? I feel like what I think is carrying is only called half of the time.

 

Over the back. Same here. Is this a judgment call? Seems it is only called half of the time as well.

 

For "carrying" to be called the official has to determine that the ball came to rest and then was dribbled again. It's essentially a variation of the double dribble. The hand does not have to stay on top of the ball.

 

"Over the back" is one that fans often don't see correctly or understand. A player can be behind another player and rebound the ball without it being a foul. There is no rule preventing a player from outjumping someone from behind. It's ONLY a foul if the player from behind pushes the player in front while going for the ball. It is, indeed, a judgement call and often times is made by the outside official.

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I'm confused. I thought in the play you described the pass was coming from a throw in.

 

It was which is why it wasn't a violation.

Another backcourt scenario:

 

A1 has the ball in the frontcourt. He goes to pass the ball but B1 blocks the pass. The ball hits A1 in the frontcourt and then goes to the backcourt area. A1 goes to get it and is the only one to touch it in the backcourt. Now what?

 

 

A defensive deflection caused it to go into the backcourt and no possession was established before the ball went j to the backcourt therefore it is not a violation even though it hit A1 last.

 

Final answer.

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A defensive deflection caused it to go into the backcourt and no possession was established before the ball went j to the backcourt therefore it is not a violation even though it hit A1 last.

 

Final answer.

 

Do you have any lifelines?

Another backcourt scenario:

 

A1 has the ball in the frontcourt. He goes to pass the ball but B1 blocks the pass. The ball hits A1 in the frontcourt and then goes to the backcourt area. A1 goes to get it and is the only one to touch it in the backcourt. Now what?

 

A1 was the last to possess the ball and the last to touch it in frontcourt...so it's a violation...right?

It was which is why it wasn't a violation.

 

Gotcha. Your second sentence in that post threw me off.

Do you have any lifelines?

 

I tried to call a friend but it went straight to voicemail.

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A1 was the last to possess the ball and the last to touch it in frontcourt...so it's a violation...right?

 

Maybe. What if instead of it being a pass it was a missed shot that , during the rebound attempt, got batted by the defensive team off of an offensive player to the backcourt where it was grabbed by the shooting team?

For "carrying" to be called the official has to determine that the ball came to rest and then was dribbled again. It's essentially a variation of the double dribble. The hand does not have to stay on top of the ball.

 

"Over the back" is one that fans often don't see correctly or understand. A player can be behind another player and rebound the ball without it being a foul. There is no rule preventing a player from outjumping someone from behind. It's ONLY a foul if the player from behind pushes the player in front while going for the ball. It is, indeed, a judgement call and often times is made by the outside official.

 

Thank you. These help a lot. I always thought the hand had to stay on top of the ball.

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Thank you. These help a lot. I always thought the hand had to stay on top of the ball.

 

Nothing in the rulebook that says that. It would, though, be hard to get your hand completely under the ball and then dribble without it being a violation. The challenge is when the hand is ont he side of the ball. It's possible to make it come to a stop and that's where it becomes subjective.

Maybe. What if instead of it being a pass it was a missed shot that , during the rebound attempt, got batted by the defensive team off of an offensive player to the backcourt where it was grabbed by the shooting team?

 

No violation. I still stand by my 'no possession established due to defensive deflection' explanation.

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No violation. I still stand by my 'no possession established due to defensive deflection' explanation.

 

You, every fan, and 99% of the coaches take that same stand.

 

However, it's incorrect.

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