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Is Voter Fraud a Red Herring?

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Them as in his thought"s" on requiring voter ID.

 

Cool. If I misunderstood your point I apologize. All I can go off of is the written word.

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I believe the only one is NV. However, let's assume you are correct. You accurately point out that it falls short of voter fraud.

 

I believe it could lead to voter fraud. Someone could go to the polling station and say they were so and so, then without ID they could vote under that false registration.

They could vote several times in one election without proper ID. A gentleman I taught with was from Chicago and he told me that his sister once voted 5 times in an election. Another follow teacher told me about his aunt, in Williamsburg, KY, who always had voted before he got to the polls. He knew because she had signed the voters book, just above his name. She had been dead for 5 years.

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I believe it could lead to voter fraud. Someone could go to the polling station and say they were so and so, then without ID they could vote under that false registration.

They could vote several times in one election without proper ID. A gentleman I taught with was from Chicago and he told me that his sister once voted 5 times in an election. Another follow teacher told me about his aunt, in Williamsburg, KY, who always had voted before he got to the polls. He knew because she had signed the voters book, just above his name. She had been dead for 5 years.

 

I was talking to someone yesterday about how it seems like everyone knows someone that was at the Who concert.

 

Everyone knows stories of Chicago voters voting 5 times.

 

It's great theater and mythology.

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From the Kentucky Secretary of State web page

 

The Office has launched a number of efforts to address voter fraud in Kentucky, including: the effort to reinstate an electioneering ban near the polls so that fraud and corruption were rooted from the doorstep of democracy -- literally.

 

Since the passage of that legislation, additional regulations and laws have been passed to protect our elections from corruption while balancing Kentuckians' right to free speech.

 

 

The Office of the Secretary of State and the State Board of Elections regularly team up with the U.S. Attorney's Offices, Kentucky State Police, and the Kentucky Attorney General's Office to provide a unified effort to eliminate fraud and corruption from Kentucky elections. The 2006 effort led to prompt indictments of accused vote buyers.

 

 

The Office led the effort to prevent "pay-per-card" voter registrations in Kentucky, a fraud-ridden technique of registering voters that surfaced during the 2004 election cycle. In addition to this legislation, the Office led the effort to pass numerous election related bills that strengthen and clarify Kentucky election law.

 

The State Board of Elections has also worked diligently to keep clean and accurate voter rolls. In 2006, the State Board of Elections participated in a first-in-the-nation pilot program to verify voter registrations with other states. Voters that were listed in multiple states' databases were purged from the state in which their voter registration was not the most current. The National Association of Secretaries of States recently passed a resolution supporting these types of efforts.

 

And to think all of this was prior to the 2008 election.

 

And to think Ms. Walker is a Dem!

Oh really?

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Q: Do I have to produce Identification to vote? A: All voters must produce identification or be known by a precinct officer prior to voting. KRS117.227 and 31 KAR 4:010 provide the types of ID that can be used by the voter such as: Personal acquaintance of precinct officer, Driver’s license, Social Security card, credit card, or another form of ID containing both picture and signature.

 

As I stated, the precinct officer knows me but she has told me she ID's everybody (and she has been told to ID everyone), so as not to show any favoritism to anyone!

 

Doesn't this prove Clyde's point? SS cards and credit cards are not photo IDs and they are acceptable forms of identification for purpose of the link you cited.

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Link

 

From the Kentucky Secretary of State web page

 

The Office has launched a number of efforts to address voter fraud in Kentucky, including: the effort to reinstate an electioneering ban near the polls so that fraud and corruption were rooted from the doorstep of democracy -- literally.

 

Since the passage of that legislation, additional regulations and laws have been passed to protect our elections from corruption while balancing Kentuckians' right to free speech.

 

 

The Office of the Secretary of State and the State Board of Elections regularly team up with the U.S. Attorney's Offices, Kentucky State Police, and the Kentucky Attorney General's Office to provide a unified effort to eliminate fraud and corruption from Kentucky elections. The 2006 effort led to prompt indictments of accused vote buyers.

 

 

The Office led the effort to prevent "pay-per-card" voter registrations in Kentucky, a fraud-ridden technique of registering voters that surfaced during the 2004 election cycle. In addition to this legislation, the Office led the effort to pass numerous election related bills that strengthen and clarify Kentucky election law.

 

The State Board of Elections has also worked diligently to keep clean and accurate voter rolls. In 2006, the State Board of Elections participated in a first-in-the-nation pilot program to verify voter registrations with other states. Voters that were listed in multiple states' databases were purged from the state in which their voter registration was not the most current. The National Association of Secretaries of States recently passed a resolution supporting these types of efforts.

 

And to think all of this was prior to the 2008 election.

 

And think Ms. Walker is a Dem!

 

So KY has the same law as NV that some of the ACORN workers broke ie can't pay per registration.

 

That shows me what? It doesn't show me that a photo ID is required. It doesn't show me that KY is enacting any laws that seem to target a specific group or limit freedom to vote or has intent of voter suppression.

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Doesn't this prove Clyde's point? SS cards and credit cards are not photo IDs and they are acceptable forms of identification for purpose of the link you cited.

 

Of course it does. Many (and TOG is a smart guy ) are simply misinformed as to the real rules and partly because the volunteer workers at the voting booth are misinformed and passing on bad info.

I was talking to someone yesterday about how it seems like everyone knows someone that was at the Who concert.

 

Everyone knows stories of Chicago voters voting 5 times.

 

It's great theater and mythology.

 

I have no reason to call my follow educator a liar.

And what about the gentleman's aunt?

 

Maybe these laws are passed to make sure future elections are clean, to head off future problems.

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I have no reason to call my follow educator a liar.

And what about the gentleman's aunt?

 

Maybe these laws are passed to make sure future elections are clean, to head off future problems.

 

Maybe.

 

Maybe they were already planning this prior to 2008 when President Obama was elected. Maybe the financial source behind this effort really does care for true democracy despite his comments about wanting less and less people to vote.

 

Maybe? Come on.

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Simple question.

 

Do you believe these same groups would have influenced the same states to pass the same laws had we had a normal turnout and had Sen. McCain won the election?

Doesn't this prove Clyde's point? SS cards and credit cards are not photo IDs and they are acceptable forms of identification for purpose of the link you cited.

 

Correct he is, but then again what is wrong with everyone showing a picture ID to vote? BTW if you don't have a SS card or a Credit Card then I believe it states you have to show a ID containing both picture and signature!

You're saying 2.6M illegals voted in 2009? I need some info on that one.

Didn't say that many voted. There are 2.6 million in cali. That's two years ago. during the governor race, the latino vote was a huge factor. I think its just as ridiculous that the democrats use the illegal vote just to have political gain as the accusation you are making against the R's. And it shouldn't matter if 2.6 million illegals voted. 1 illegal is too much but I assure you, its much, much more.

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Correct he is, but then again what is wrong with everyone showing a picture ID to vote? BTW if you don't have a SS card or a Credit Card then I believe it states you have to show a ID containing both picture and signature!

 

You are correct. OR the person working the table/voting booth can vouch for you.

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Didn't say that many voted. There are 2.6 million in cali. That's two years ago. during the governor race, the latino vote was a huge factor. I think its just as ridiculous that the democrats use the illegal vote just to have political gain .

 

So you're saying the Ds are perpetrating voter fraud?

 

Did I miss that on Fox News or Drudge?

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If voter fraud is a major concern our time and efforts should be spent on the software and people that run the voting booths. That would be a MUCH easier way to commit fraud.

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