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The Proposition 19 Conundrum

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And that is your reason for wanting to make it legal. Well, they are going to lie, cheat and steal to get it anyhow might as well make it legal.

 

That mindset, people who murder are going to murder anyhow. Might as well make murder legal and tax it.

 

To quote my brother-in-law, "Amazing."

 

If you are going to compare murder with pot, I'm wasting my time even being on here.

 

I think it is extremely hypocritical to say "you can drink, but you can't do pot!" When is the last time you heard of men or women abusing their children or spouse because they were too high? How many times have you heard of people getting into car accidents for being too high?

 

I'm all for gun rights, but you can't tell me that marijuana will have a more dangerous impact on a child's life. Its not the pot that leads to do other drugs. Its the people you hang with and the choices you make as an individual. I have smoked "cannabis" before and I have never tried any other drug in my life. You know why? Because I don't want to. The pot doesn't try and persuade me to.

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By law, if a female is too drunk and a male takes advantage of them, can that male be charged with rape? Absolutely they can.

 

Marijuana LOWERS or makes willpower VANISH altogether.

 

I blame it for most of the votes for liberals in this country.:D:D:D That was purely a joke but some will not take it that way.

 

 

What does rape have to do with this? If a woman is drunk or not, it's a man's choice to take a woman against her will.

Absolutely not. Some are fully capable of going through life and limiting their bad choices. But the government should NOT be in the business of allowing/subsidizing/encouraging for TAX DOLLARS things that we all know are going to run some people's lives.

 

I would expect government to be a positive in people's lives and not setting things up that all can agree is going to run people's lives.

 

 

 

And, again, people ruin their own lives. The abuse of the substance is the issue. Other people, probably more than you would think, partake with no addiction, no loss of job, no ruinous effects.

In the end, doesn't everything...smoking marijuana, drinking, doing harder drugs....all boil down to personal choice and decision making? I aways am confused why marijuana is considered a gateway drug, but not drinking beer. It seems to me that no matther what, legal or illegal, you can't blame a substance on the abuse. The blame lies solely with the individual who chose to partake, and from that point, chose to abuse.

 

That's the conventional wisdom, but I always had a tough time believing it.

 

Of course, sample sizes of 1 don't often yield the most valid or reliable study results.:D

What does rape have to do with this? If a woman is drunk or not, it's a man's choice to take a woman against her will.

 

But the courts have said that if a woman is drunk, they don't have the WILLPOWER or JUDGEMENT to say yes.

But somehow those on here that won't admit that marijuana is a gateway drug refuse to consider that if a person is high, they don't have the WILLPOWER or JUDGEMENT to say no to the harder drugs.

But the courts have said that if a woman is drunk, they don't have the WILLPOWER or JUDGEMENT to say yes.

But somehow those on here that won't admit that marijuana is a gateway drug refuse to consider that if a person is high, they don't have the WILLPOWER or JUDGEMENT to say no to the harder drugs.

 

 

Oh for the love of God. :ohbrother:

And, again, people ruin their own lives. The abuse of the substance is the issue. Other people, probably more than you would think, partake with no addiction, no loss of job, no ruinous effects.

 

If you are talking physical addiction, I will concede that point. But mental addiction can be as hard to overcome as a physical addiction.

 

How do you judge what is a ruinous effect? They could have missed out on promotions, salary increases all sorts of things. No way you can accurately say that.

 

And there was a thread I posted on here awhile back in a similar discussion that indicated there was a tie between marijuana and testicular cancer. Each toke may mean bad news for a guy's jewels.

Oh for the love of God. :ohbrother:

 

What? So, they don't have willpower or judgement to say yes or no to consensual sex but they have willpower or judgement to say yes or no to harder drugs?

Oh for the love of God. :ohbrother:

 

You missed me didn't ya? :D:D:D:jump::jump::jump::p:p:p

And, again, people ruin their own lives. The abuse of the substance is the issue. Other people, probably more than you would think, partake with no addiction, no loss of job, no ruinous effects.

 

 

Absolutely I agree that some can do it with minimal harm. But there are a great deal who cannot. Society, IMVHO, should not be creating things that put more and potentially devastating obstacles in people's paths.

But the courts have said that if a woman is drunk, they don't have the WILLPOWER or JUDGEMENT to say yes.

But somehow those on here that won't admit that marijuana is a gateway drug refuse to consider that if a person is high, they don't have the WILLPOWER or JUDGEMENT to say no to the harder drugs.

 

Never was an issue with "a friend".:D Often high, NEVER lacked the willpower or judgement to say no to anything else.

 

But again, it's risky to take stock in experiments with an N of less than 2.

At least we're having this discussion during Red Ribbon Week.

Never was an issue with "a friend".:D Often high, NEVER lacked the willpower or judgement to say no to anything else.

 

But again, it's risky to take stock in experiments with an N of less than 2.

 

And I have said as much in the post right above yours.

 

But I see youth after youth after youth whose lives are ruined by it.

I have seen youth steal from their parents mortgage payment to buy pot.

And I have said as much in the post right above yours.

 

But I see youth after youth after youth whose lives are ruined by it.

I have seen youth steal from their parents mortgage payment to buy pot.

 

 

C'mon, lbbc...those kids need more than just to not have pot legalized. Shoot, if they're in a position where they're stealing from their parents to get pot and the parents haven't done anything to this point, the bigger problem is a lack of parental involvement.

C'mon, lbbc...those kids need more than just to not have pot legalized. Shoot, if they're in a position where they're stealing from their parents to get pot and the parents haven't done anything to this point, the bigger problem is a lack of parental involvement.

 

Over in the Waiting for Superman thread, public schools were told to quit using the bolded as a crutch. It is always going to be a problem so just deal with it and don't blame it for the problems.

 

I agree with you but I am being told as a public school teacher that they are tired of us whining about it.

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