I think anyone who looks down on this or calls it cheating has probably never played any high competitive sports(especially baseball) in their life.

Anyone who has watched much baseball at all has seen this happen before...sometimes the umps get the call right, and sometimes they don't, but Jeter isn't the first guy I've seen pull off an acting job to get a call. It's a non-issue. And, it's no different than a guy flopping to get a charge, or a punter or kicker over-acting to draw a flag (just to name two examples that come to mind). Players do what they can to gain an advantage. The common denominator in all of them is that they depend on an official to make the (wrong) call.

I haven't seen the pitch, but my first thought is that I don't have a problem with it.

 

There is a difference between intentionally knocking the ball out of one's glove and acting as if you've been hit by a pitch. I'm not sure I can articulate the reasons, but there is a big difference.

 

I'd challenge you to articulate them. I had no problem with either action. Both were attempts to get on base and helping your team . ARod's act was no different than when an ump calls a DP due to the baserunner at 2nd sliding way too wide in order to take out the SS. He took a chance. He lost. His team got nailed.

Plus, there's physical contact with another player, which could result in an unnecessary injury.

 

With all due respect that's a reach.

I'd challenge you to articulate them. I had no problem with either action. Both were attempts to get on base and helping your team . ARod's act was no different than when an ump calls a DP due to the baserunner at 2nd sliding way too wide in order to take out the SS. He took a chance. He lost. His team got nailed.

 

The biggest thing that jumps out to me is that ARod's actions were done to prevent an out (to take an out away from the other team). Jeter's were done to get on base.

 

ARod's move was more busch league, while Jeter's was seeking to take an advantage of the human element. If I was a pitcher, I would've hit AROD the next time up (and wouldn't hit Jeter) but that's just me.

No problem with Jeter faking the HBP, that's good baseball. No different than faking a tag, framing a pitch, etc. I think his dramatic, injury feigning act with the trainer coming out, then boasting about the play after the game to the press, will hurt him a lot in the long run though. If you think an umpire gets upset when you show him up on a called third strike, what do you think they'll do when they are made to look so foolish.

I think anyone who looks down on this or calls it cheating has probably never played any high competitive sports(especially baseball) in their life.

 

I will probably say I have played as much or more competitive sports as any of you ,and I don't look down on it I just don't respect it . . I always thought I was a hitter and that was what I wanted to do was hit ,I didn't even want to walk . I did walk a lot but I wanted to hit .

No problem with Jeter faking the HBP, that's good baseball. No different than faking a tag, framing a pitch, etc.

 

Not so fast my friend. Faking a tag is never part of baseball, much less is it "good baseball."

With all due respect that's a reach.

 

I was simply stating that as a difference between the two plays. I have no problem with it, or like you stated, sliding off the bag to break up a DP. Forearm shiver someone if it there's a chance you can get away with it.

Not so fast my friend. Faking a tag is never part of baseball, much less is it "good baseball."

 

Actually it is a part of baseball, catchers do it all the time on plays at the plate. Posada did it just the other day. Whether we like it or not it happens more often than people faking being hit by a pitch.

IMO I feel it was a cop out and him conceding that he couldn't get a hit off that pitcher.

IMO I feel it was a cop out and him conceding that he couldn't get a hit off that pitcher.

 

:lol::lol:

 

:notworthy::notworthy:

 

 

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I held off commenting until I actually got to see the play in question. After seeing it I can tell that it's a VERY slow news day!

The biggest thing that jumps out to me is that ARod's actions were done to prevent an out (to take an out away from the other team). Jeter's were done to get on base.

 

ARod's move was more busch league, while Jeter's was seeking to take an advantage of the human element. If I was a pitcher, I would've hit AROD the next time up (and wouldn't hit Jeter) but that's just me.

 

If Jeter KNEW he was going to get on base he would have said "thanks but no thanks." Since he didn't that told me he was "trying to prevent an out."

Being a baseball fan, I see nothing wrong with what Jeter did last night...you gotta do whatever you can to reach base, especially in such an important series as this was. Is it any different for a pitch to go inside on someone, them act like they get hit, pinchthemselves really hard where they might've gotten hit, and point to the red spot saying thats where the ball hit them? No there is nothing wrong with it...the umpire is gotta be the one that decides whether or not you got hit or if you are faking it.

 

I personally don't think there would've been as much of an outcry against what was done if someone on a last place team did that. If someone on the Pittsburgh Pirates had done what Jeter did, they would probably be calling that guy a genius in selling the HBP. Sports fans need to stop having a double standard and I think this is just another case of "let's crucify the bad guy for lying".