I understand where you are coming from, but look at it from another angle. What if the Muslim players started quoting the Koran (sp)? Would you feel the same way, or would you get a little outraged as I do. I really don't even like it when there are Muslim sounding named players playing for Notre Dame or BYU-schools with a clearly different religious heritage. (and yes I know that is not politically correct to say) So again-I agree with your viewpoint, but as we have seen in politics lately-it doesn't take long for the other side to catch up.

 

Someone could have a Muslim sounding name and not be Muslim, i.e. Barack Obama. Why don't they belong at Notre Dame? Who is too judge another person they don't know and say they know that person's religious views?

 

If I'm not mistaken, I think the NCAA already had something in place to guard against the disgracing of an opponent....Bottom line IMO they simply do not want the Bible verses. We live in a "politically correct" society and we must not offend anyone...at least that's what we are being conditioned to believe.

 

I'm sure the Bible verses are part of it, but I think they don't want any of that stuff on there like the area codes or personal messages. JMO, but I don't think everything is a personal attack on the Christian population.

I understand where you are coming from, but look at it from another angle. What if the Muslim players started quoting the Koran (sp)? Would you feel the same way, or would you get a little outraged as I do. I really don't even like it when there are Muslim sounding named players playing for Notre Dame or BYU-schools with a clearly different religious heritage. (and yes I know that is not politically correct to say) So again-I agree with your viewpoint, but as we have seen in politics lately-it doesn't take long for the other side to catch up.

 

That's a little worse than being politically incorrect.

That's a little worse than being politically incorrect.

 

The same controversy reigned years ago with Muhammed Ali....you can pretend people don't feel that way, but they do.

 

My point, which I am probably not articulating well, is how would most of our judeo/christian nation feel should a quarterback come on national tv after being named MVP with koran verses marked in eyeblack and shouting "Allah, Allah". I am telling you that would spark outrage in the land of the free. So I do think it is not a bad move by the NCAA to outlaw this type of messaging as so far we have seen just one side of it. A side that most of us agree with.

 

Reflect back for a moment to 9/11-how did you feel when other people in other nations were praising "their God" for this heinous act? I felt both anger and the desire to puke, and that is how often statements of religious proclamation can make others feel. Regardless as to whether you believe one must "be saved through the Lord Jesus Christ" or whatever, a rational mind can only conclude that there are different opinions on the Almighty in this world, and I don't believe sports should be an outlet of expression for this subject matter.

The same controversy reigned years ago with Muhammed Ali....you can pretend people don't feel that way, but they do.

 

My point, which I am probably not articulating well, is how would most of our judeo/christian nation feel should a quarterback come on national tv after being named MVP with koran verses marked in eyeblack and shouting "Allah, Allah". I am telling you that would spark outrage in the land of the free. So I do think it is not a bad move by the NCAA to outlaw this type of messaging as so far we have seen just one side of it. A side that most of us agree with.

 

Reflect back for a moment to 9/11-how did you feel when other people in other nations were praising "their God" for this heinous act? I felt both anger and the desire to puke, and that is how often statements of religious proclamation can make others feel. Regardless as to whether you believe one must "be saved through the Lord Jesus Christ" or whatever, a rational mind can only conclude that there are different opinions on the Almighty in this world, and I don't believe sports should be an outlet of expression for this subject matter.

 

I believe in free speech.:thumb:

The NCAA is being proactive with the eye black thing and wisely so. They are not banning religious messages as many are portraying, they are banning all potential harmful messages.

The NCAA is being proactive with the eye black thing and wisely so. They are not banning religious messages as many are portraying, they are banning all potential harmful messages.

 

Agreed-which is always a tough sell for those that believe totally in free speech.

 

I have found that people believe in free speech as long as the statements being made are not too inflamatory or controversial, or agree with their viewpoint.:thumb:

The NCAA is being proactive with the eye black thing and wisely so. They are not banning religious messages as many are portraying, they are banning all potential harmful messages.

 

I disagree, but we all have our opinions and for now we are allowed to voice those. Beware of the so-called "fairness doctrine" bill that is being debated.

NCAA already has rules in place that ban harmful messages.

Agreed-which is always a tough sell for those that believe totally in free speech.

 

I have found that people believe in free speech as long as the statements being made are not too inflamatory or controversial, or agree with their viewpoint.:thumb:

 

We all know the differnce between inflamatory statements(cursing another individual.....) or something like yelling, "fire" in a crowded room....and free speech.

I disagree, but we all have our opinions and for now we are allowed to voice those. Beware of the so-called "fairness doctrine" bill that is being debated.

NCAA already has rules in place that ban harmful messages.

You disagree with what? The NCAA is being proactive or the notion they are banning "religious messages". What rule are you referring to that the NCAA already has?

You disagree with what? The NCAA is being proactive or the notion they are banning "religious messages". What rule are you referring to that the NCAA already has?

 

I disagree with what you said, "they are not banning religious messages as some are portraying". That is my opinion in the matter.

I can't quote NCAA rules, but I'm certain that they have something already in place that bans crude, inflamatory writing, whether it is on clothing, athletic tape, eyeblack.....so there is no need to ban writing on eyeblack to prevent such remarks.

So how long before these Rules are in effect in High School?