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JCPS says no middle-schoolers on HS teams

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A coach should have the option to play the best players, period ... regardless of how old they are.

 

Exactly.....It's harsh but the best players should play varsity sports reguardless of age. There are rec leagues for those that can't compete with the best athletes

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A coach should have the option to play the best players, period ... regardless of how old they are.

So then it's alright to allow a 20 year old to play HS sports? I mean you did say, "regardless of how old they are"!

 

But there is a rule against it, so parents (the usually curse of HS Coaches) won't keep holding Johnny back, so he can be the super star at age 19/20/ heck even 21 if some parents and communities got their way in the name of making their local HS team a state contender!

 

There is more to HS than playing sports. If a grade school kid wants to play HS sports, then let him take the HS subjects. Why allow him to be a HS player, while he is doing grade school work. Wanna play with the big boys, then go to the same school and do the same work the big boys do too!

 

Has anyone ever heard of a full time HS student, who has yet to graduate from HS, playing for a College team?

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That's a sad commentary on girls' golf.

 

YOu must not understand how good Lydia is then. If I am not mistaken, she was breaking 100 as a 3rd grader.

I do not understand how this rule would be illegal?

 

Legislature got involved several years ago and made a KRS saying that no body outside of the KY Board of Ed or it's designee could prevent a public school student 4th grade and up from trying out for varsity sport.

 

My guess would be that some parent got upset because their child couldn't play varsity and had some political pull and got a legislator to push it through.

So then it's alright to allow a 20 year old to play HS sports? I mean you did say, "regardless of how old they are"!

 

But there is a rule against it, so parents (the usually curse of HS Coaches) won't keep holding Johnny back, so he can be the super star at age 19/20/ heck even 21 if some parents and communities got their way in the name of making their local HS team a state contender!

 

There is more to HS than playing sports. If a grade school kid wants to play HS sports, then let him take the HS subjects. Why allow him to be a HS player, while he is doing grade school work. Wanna play with the big boys, then go to the same school and do the same work the big boys do too!

 

Has anyone ever heard of a full time HS student, who has yet to graduate from HS, playing for a College team?

 

I understand the point you are trying to make here but it is not an accurate analogy. Your point brings two different school DISTRICTS into play. The MS and HS does not.

I understand the point you are trying to make here but it is not an accurate analogy. Your point brings two different school DISTRICTS into play. The MS and HS does not.

 

Not so sure about that one, as I thought I helped pay for the Public Universities (UK UL etc) via paying my taxes, as I do for the local school district too! I have no problem with calling UK UL ect just an extension of my local school district!

 

Again I have no problem with the smaller HS, who couldn't field a team without a grade school kid playing for them, but when you have schools with 600 plus students and they allow a grade school kids to play sports. :idunno:

Not so sure about that one, as I thought I helped pay for the Public Universities (UK UL etc) via paying my taxes, as I do for the local school district too! I have no problem with calling UK UL ect just an extension of my local school district!

 

Again I have no problem with the smaller HS, who couldn't field a team without a grade school kid playing for them, but when you have schools with 600 plus students and they allow a grade school kids to play sports. :idunno:

 

How about Wrestling? The state rule is 7th grade and up can wrestle varsity. Do you know how difficult to find a kid for the 103, 112, 119 weight classes in hs? Over my years of coaching, most of my 103 pounders have been middle school kids. During that time I have had several state qualifiers and a region champ. This years state champ at 103 was Brock Ervin from Union County and 119 runner up was a 7th grader.

 

The best kids should play...

How about Wrestling? The state rule is 7th grade and up can wrestle varsity. Do you know how difficult to find a kid for the 103, 112, 119 weight classes in hs? Over my years of coaching, most of my 103 pounders have been middle school kids. During that time I have had several state qualifiers and a region champ. This years state champ at 103 was Brock Ervin from Union County and 119 runner up was a 7th grader.

 

The best kids should play...

It will be really hard for them to field a full team now. It does get them in line with the Jefferson County private schools though.

I'm all for playing the best players...........BUT way to often I see schools play young kids who are not ready HOPING that it will give them an advantage for the future.

It will be really hard for them to field a full team now. It does get them in line with the Jefferson County private schools though.

 

I don't think this will last, for once title 9 might help wrestling, because female sports will take the bigger hit. I'm just glad I am not in that region...

Poor move in thought and in logic.

We have cross country/track runners who are part of the high school team.

We make sure that anyone that runs up ... has a good understanding (meaning the runner and athlete) of what that involves.

 

And here is a thought ... if we didn't allow that ... then they wouldn't run at all. And the reason is ... the middle school doesn't have a track/cross country program. (Not to mention--they can't afford to have one either!).

 

So ... right there .. that speaks to why this is a bad move. Just for cross country and track alone--that isn't a fair reaction. For us--we have many kids who "run under the high school banner or team" yet only run against kids there own age (because track/cross usually have specific meets for Elementary/Middle School/etc). But--like I said--they run for us. How in the world would JCPS quantify those situations? Because in the end--they end up taking opportunities away from kids.

 

Very, very, very, very poor move. As poor as it can get.

Just wondering as I sometimes do, but if some schools use middle school kids to play varsity sports, then why shouldn't those schools have to count those in the middle school against their numbers in sports that have classes?

 

Example Dixe (and please I am not trying to pick on Dixie, just using them as an example) plays a 8th grader and 7 grader in Basketball and baseball. Now neither of these sports have classes, but since they let their middle school kids play varsity sports and cut HS kids off some teams, then why shouldn't Dixie or like schools not have to count the entire Middle School numbers along with their numbers, when they count male numbers for classes! Again just wondering!

Just wondering as I sometimes do, but if some schools use middle school kids to play varsity sports, then why shouldn't those schools have to count those in the middle school against their numbers in sports that have classes?

 

Example Dixe (and please I am not trying to pick on Dixie, just using them as an example) plays a 8th grader and 7 grader in Basketball and baseball. Now neither of these sports have classes, but since they let their middle school kids play varsity sports and cut HS kids off some teams, then why shouldn't Dixie or like schools not have to count the entire Middle School numbers along with their numbers, when they count male numbers for classes! Again just wondering!

Does football allow middle schoolers?
Does football allow middle schoolers?

 

The contact sports of football and soccer cannot have middle schoolers competing against upper classroom in games or even during scrimmages during practice.

 

They can compete on a freshmen level and possibly JV level.

 

I believe that is accurate.

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