Someone refresh me again on why, other than tradition I suppose that the semi finals of the Sweet Sixteen are on Saturday mornings and there is not an extra day added(Tuesday)? Wouldn't the extra day be more money,etc.? What's the good side, bad side? Thanks.

By having the semis and finals on the same day, the KHSAA keeps from having to rent Rupp Arena another day just for the championship game.

They would make no more money if they started it on Tuesday because you would still be playing 15 games.

The KHSAA would only lose money because they would be renting Rupp for 5 days for 15 games as opposed to 4 days.

It comes down to a business decision with their most profitable event of the year.

It's just the way it is. This is one of the few things that I truly believe needs to be changed about the state tournament format. I will never forget how this format probably cost fans a chance to see what should have been one of the most exciting games in the 1980 state tournament held @ Freedom Hall. Owensboro led by Dwight Hicks came into the tournament as the favorite @ 30-2 and Covington Holmes led by Dickie Beal came in @ 32-2. Both regions had drawn into the bottom bracket and were on target to meet @ 10:00am on Saturday morning in the semi-finals. Everyone had pretty much figured that the winner of that game would be the state champion. The problem was that with the format the way it is Holmes would have to play 4 games in approximately 48 hrs to win. They were a team that relied heavily on speed and full court pressure on defense. The Saturday morning spectacle never occurred. On Friday night Holmes played Ashland who had a very tall and very good team themselves. The game got started late and due to halftime chearleading awards and 2 overtimes Holmes game wasn't over until nearly mdnight. Holmes pulled the game out 97-92 and the players were exhausted. Coach Flynn did everything he could to get them out of there quickly so they could get some rest back at the hotel. That would have been great had they been staying at the Executive right there on the grounds but the party atmosphere there would have been too much so the team chose to stay somewhere away from the arena. He got them on the bus and onto the Watterson and more delays occurred. They sat in traffic from a wreck for over an hour and he didn't get them into bed until around 2:30am. They had an early wakeup call naturally and showed up @ Freedom Hall Saturday moring looking like thay had been dragged under the bus. The rest is history I guess you could say and Owensboro buried them 91-64 in that game and went on to win the championship over Louisville Doss. Anyone that you talked to in Louisville that weekend said they felt that they had been robbed of a chance to see the matchup that had been the talk of the tournament since the first day. I can't say that Holmes would have beaten Owensboro because they had a great team but I feel that given the luck of the draw and the Saturday format of the tournament they never really had a chance to prove it. This format has taken it's toll on other teams as well I'm sure and maybe a more fair format could be developed but I guess if that year didn't give them a reason to look at it none will.

Because change is bad!!:scared:

I personally like the format the way it is and I LOVE the state tournament in Kentucky the way it is compared to other states. Why does the KHSAA Sweet 16 have to be like every other state tournament?

I personally like the format the way it is and I LOVE the state tournament in Kentucky the way it is compared to other states. Why does the KHSAA Sweet 16 have to be like every other state tournament?

 

Can we just add a day?, please

I personally like the format the way it is and I LOVE the state tournament in Kentucky the way it is compared to other states. Why does the KHSAA Sweet 16 have to be like every other state tournament?

 

Way too many issues with this format. A team may play late Fri. night and then have the 1st game Sat. morning. And say the team that wins in the 2nd semifinal wins in say a 3 or 4 OT game. No way they have the energy to perform at their peak in just a few short hours. From blind seeding to this idiotic Sat. format it almost seems a deliberate action to not having the best teams playing each other in peak condition. Like I said the fear of changing something in this state is bordering comical.

Way too many issues with this format. A team may play late Fri. night and then have the 1st game Sat. morning. And say the team that wins in the 2nd semifinal wins in say a 3 or 4 OT game. No way they have the energy to perform at their peak in just a few short hours. From blind seeding to this idiotic Sat. format it almost seems a deliberate action to not having the best teams playing each other in peak condition. Like I said the fear of changing something in this state is bordering comical.

 

No one wants to change anything, sports or otherwise in this state:madman:, just ask Bunning.

Way too many issues with this format. A team may play late Fri. night and then have the 1st game Sat. morning. And say the team that wins in the 2nd semifinal wins in say a 3 or 4 OT game. No way they have the energy to perform at their peak in just a few short hours. From blind seeding to this idiotic Sat. format it almost seems a deliberate action to not having the best teams playing each other in peak condition. Like I said the fear of changing something in this state is bordering comical.

 

 

The way the schedule is set up, the team playing the late game can't have the first game the next morning. The teams that win the early session on Friday will play the first game Saturday morning.

 

Its not like the teams going into the tournament don't know they could possibly be playing multiple games within a short period of time. Deal with it the best you can and move on.

 

The only question I have is do you really think these athletes can't play multiple games within a 48 hour period? Most of the players who get deep into the tournament are usually playing AAU ball and play multiple games in a single day.

 

Even after seeing my high school (Rockcastle County) was eliminated from the Girls Sweet 16, do I think they could have been effected by the lack of time between Friday night's game and Saturday morning's games....potentially, but that shouldn't be and wouldn't be the reason why they lost.

Can we just add a day?, please

 

If they add a day, the ticket prices will go through the roof as they'd have to be renting Rupp Arena for an extra day. Would you be willing to pay....oh let's say $15 per session for every session just to offset the cost the KHSAA would have to rent Rupp Arena for an extra day?

 

(Please note: I am just using the figure above as an example. I'd hope it wouldn't be THAT high would you never know with the KHSAA)

The way the schedule is set up, the team playing the late game can't have the first game the next morning. The teams that win the early session on Friday will play the first game Saturday morning.

 

Its not like the teams going into the tournament don't know they could possibly be playing multiple games within a short period of time. Deal with it the best you can and move on.

 

The only question I have is do you really think these athletes can't play multiple games within a 48 hour period? Most of the players who get deep into the tournament are usually playing AAU ball and play multiple games in a single day..

 

 

Lets not compare playing at the sweet sixteen in rupp arena for a state title in front of 15000 people to an AAU tournament. As you said, the teams going in know what they have to do. So you have to deal with the best you know how. Its been this way for many years and it will not change.

If they add a day, the ticket prices will go through the roof as they'd have to be renting Rupp Arena for an extra day. Would you be willing to pay....oh let's say $15 per session for every session just to offset the cost the KHSAA would have to rent Rupp Arena for an extra day?

 

(Please note: I am just using the figure above as an example. I'd hope it wouldn't be THAT high would you never know with the KHSAA)

 

Paid $20-$25 per ticket per session for center court lower arena seats this year per the outside on the street Hyatt ticket agency:thumb:

The way the schedule is set up, the team playing the late game can't have the first game the next morning. The teams that win the early session on Friday will play the first game Saturday morning.

 

Its not like the teams going into the tournament don't know they could possibly be playing multiple games within a short period of time. Deal with it the best you can and move on.

 

The only question I have is do you really think these athletes can't play multiple games within a 48 hour period? Most of the players who get deep into the tournament are usually playing AAU ball and play multiple games in a single day.

 

Even after seeing my high school (Rockcastle County) was eliminated from the Girls Sweet 16, do I think they could have been effected by the lack of time between Friday night's game and Saturday morning's games....potentially, but that shouldn't be and wouldn't be the reason why they lost.

 

Again why would you not want the best teams playing at optimal strength facing each other? It's this fear of change that holds this state back.

I agree that the Championship Game would be best on its own day. Set it apart and make it special. Allow more fans from the two schools to have time to make it to the game. Put it on Monday night so it never overlaps with NCAA tournament games (UK). I think the crowd would be much bigger and the Championship Game play would also be much better. (I thought both teams made some mistakes because of fatigue in the game.)

I won't argue that it might be better to play the title game on a separate day. But, I like it the way it is. There's something cool to me about winning two games on the last day to take the title. :idunno: