So says the person who is constantly typing things like "disgusting liberal", "socialist communist" and suggestions that the POTUS is a supporter of Muslim extremist. You're right I do have a hard time handling opposing views when they are presented in such a disrepectful low browed manner. My mistake I'll try to do better.

 

I use those words on purpose. I mean to be disrespectful to those who are destroying my country, destroying the best healthcare in the world, and plan on taxing me and you into the stoneage. Corruption is out of control and I'm sick of it. Your move!

If we go strictly by the teachings of the individuals at the core of each faith, the very concept of Christian terrorist is indefensible... regardless of what some pitiful, deranged loon may claim or choose to call himself. The concept of Muslim terrorist is not only defensible by the teachings of Muhammad... it is taught daily by certain Muslim clerics worldwide. I'm not anti-Muslim. I am anti Muslim or Christian or Hindu or whatever terrorist.

 

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I use those words on purpose. I mean to be disrespectful to those who are destroying my country, destroying the best healthcare in the world, and plan on taxing me and you into the stoneage. Corruption is out of control and I'm sick of it. Your move!

 

Are you sure thats the right video?

You will find out soon enough because you will soon be one whether you like it or not. You know exactly what I mean and I'm not impressed by your act. Your boy Obama and his band of communist buddies are the biggest threat this country has ever faced. Plenty of people agree with me and see people like yourself as the reason we have people like this running our country.

 

Wow, such vitriol. Beck-like.

 

What "act" of mine doesn't impress you?

Wow, such vitriol. Beck-like.

 

What "act" of mine doesn't impress you?

 

Your Obama act. Thanks for the compliment. Beck and others are our only way to get the truth. They rub people like you raw because they expose liberal politicians that you blindly follow even though they are a direct threat to you and your family. Sorry if you don't like me, but I don't like you either, so we are even.

Your Obama act. Thanks for the compliment. Beck and others are our only way to get the truth. They rub people like you raw because they expose liberal politicians that you blindly follow even though they are a direct threat to you and your family. Sorry if you don't like me, but I don't like you either, so we are even.

 

 

I guess now would be an appropriate time to point out that there are plenty of people who believe as Obama does, or at least are willing to accept that there's not just one way to skin a cat. There are also many others who don't agree with Obama, but don't buy into the rhetoric and hyperbole that is being spewed in an effort to browbeat and strike fear into everyone.

 

Contrary to what many apparently believe, hyperbole, scare tactics and such rarely change anyone's mind or position. I wonder why so many refuse to find another way to convince?

If we go strictly by the teachings of the individuals at the core of each faith, the very concept of Christian terrorist is indefensible... regardless of what some pitiful, deranged loon may claim or choose to call himself. The concept of Muslim terrorist is not only defensible by the teachings of Muhammad... it is taught daily by certain Muslim clerics worldwide. I'm not anti-Muslim. I am anti Muslim or Christian or Hindu or whatever terrorist.

 

I confess that I don't know the bible through and through, but didn't God want some people killed? Actually didn't he order some people to be killed?

 

There are some religious groups claiming that they are doing what God asked to be done.

If we go strictly by the teachings of the individuals at the core of each faith, the very concept of Christian terrorist is indefensible... regardless of what some pitiful, deranged loon may claim or choose to call himself. The concept of Muslim terrorist is not only defensible by the teachings of Muhammad... it is taught daily by certain Muslim clerics worldwide. I'm not anti-Muslim. I am anti Muslim or Christian or Hindu or whatever terrorist.

 

I agree in my heart but many have used the OT texts to support the need for violence in God's name.

 

Read Joshua, Judges and 1 Samuel. Saul in fact gets in the hottest water for not slaughtering every man, woman, child, king and animal of the Amalekites.

 

Some on this sight tried to use the Lukan passage concerning buying swords as permission to strike out in the name of God.

 

The true concept of Christian faith is, like you say, unable to be reconciled with terror and murder. However many have distorted it that way and used the sacred scriptures to defend it.

I agree in my heart but many have used the OT texts to support the need for violence in God's name.

 

Read Joshua, Judges and 1 Samuel. Saul in fact gets in the hottest water for not slaughtering every man, woman, child, king and animal of the Amalekites.

 

Some on this sight tried to use the Lukan passage concerning buying swords as permission to strike out in the name of God.

 

The true concept of Christian faith is, like you say, unable to be reconciled with terror and murder. However many have distorted it that way and used the sacred scriptures to defend it.

I don’t know if it’s my age or just overall weariness with the pressure to seriously contemplate every whacked out opinion and perspective just to appear polite… but I have almost no tolerance for the absurd and foolish these days. Everyone with a “feeling” or an “opinion” demands equal respect, regardless of the merits of their viewpoint. This is certainly not directed at you Hatz… I just felt the need to vent I guess… just because some kook "believes" the Bible, or any other holy book tells them something doesn't necessesarily make it so. ( I am aware you know this... still venting... bear with me...)

 

The entire Bible… from beginning to end, spanning a period of about 1,600 years and written by about 40 men points entirely to one person… Jesus Christ. If Jesus Christ is the focal point of the entire Bible… if He is referred to as “the Word made flesh” then it seems to me that His words... His teaching should take precedence over all else. There is likewise no question that the Qur’an is a collection of the words and teachings of Muhammad. If one seriously examines the words and teachings of Jesus Christ versus those of Muhammad, there is no doubt what each intended to convey…

 

Jesus Christ in Matthew 5:43-48 - "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

 

Muhammad in Qur'an (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

 

Seems pretty clear cut to me… true Christianity teaches love not violence... forgiveness not vengeance. All claims that Islam is a religion of peace deny over 100 similar teachings directly by Muhammad. Islam is a religion of peace only to the extent that those granted peace accept and agree with the teachings of the Prophet.

 

Again... I am not against Muslims, or Hindus, or Budhists, or Mormons or whatever... one of the most sacred things God has bestowed upon us is our will. We have the God given right to choose right or wrong. But if your faith leads you to declare jihad against me or my family... don't be expecting me to simply bow to your lunacy.

Your Obama act. Thanks for the compliment. Beck and others are our only way to get the truth. They rub people like you raw because they expose liberal politicians that you blindly follow even though they are a direct threat to you and your family. Sorry if you don't like me, but I don't like you either, so we are even.

 

A few questions come to mind.

 

What exactly is my "Obama act?"

 

Describe people like me.

 

Who says I don't like you? I couldn't tell anyone one thing about you.

 

You only like people that spit it Beck stuff like you? Must be a boring group.

You know... getting back to the heart of this thread... is this guy the best BHO has to offer out nation in running the TSA?

 

I mean really? Is this the best he can come up with to oversee the safety of our transportation systems?

 

This is an insult to each of us...

I don’t know if it’s my age or just overall weariness with the pressure to seriously contemplate every whacked out opinion and perspective just to appear polite… but I have almost no tolerance for the absurd and foolish these days. Everyone with a “feeling” or an “opinion” demands equal respect, regardless of the merits of their viewpoint. This is certainly not directed at you Hatz… I just felt the need to vent I guess… just because some kook "believes" the Bible, or any other holy book tells them something doesn't necessesarily make it so. ( I am aware you know this... still venting... bear with me...)

 

The entire Bible… from beginning to end, spanning a period of about 1,600 years and written by about 40 men points entirely to one person… Jesus Christ. If Jesus Christ is the focal point of the entire Bible… if He is referred to as “the Word made flesh” then it seems to me that His words... His teaching should take precedence over all else. There is likewise no question that the Qur’an is a collection of the words and teachings of Muhammad. If one seriously examines the words and teachings of Jesus Christ versus those of Muhammad, there is no doubt what each intended to convey…

 

Jesus Christ in Matthew 5:43-48 - "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

 

Muhammad in Qur'an (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

 

Seems pretty clear cut to me… true Christianity teaches love not violence... forgiveness not vengeance. All claims that Islam is a religion of peace deny over 100 similar teachings directly by Muhammad. Islam is a religion of peace only to the extent that those granted peace accept and agree with the teachings of the Prophet.

 

Again... I am not against Muslims, or Hindus, or Budhists, or Mormons or whatever... one of the most sacred things God has bestowed upon us is our will. We have the God given right to choose right or wrong. But if your faith leads you to declare jihad against me or my family... don't be expecting me to simply bow to your lunacy.

 

WOW! I am framing this!

 

Well said!

You know... getting back to the heart of this thread... is this guy the best BHO has to offer out nation in running the TSA?

 

I mean really? Is this the best he can come up with to oversee the safety of our transportation systems?

 

This is an insult to each of us...

 

Are you basing that solely on what he said in the clip? Or is there other info out there about him? I know nothing about the guy.

Are you basing that solely on what he said in the clip? Or is there other info out there about him? I know nothing about the guy.

No Sir... not just the clip linked here.

 

I have seen and heard numerous clips of this individual on television, radio and the internet. Nothing against him personally, he may be a great guy... but IMO he is very much out of his depth as the nominee for such an important safety position at this time.