Congrats To The Blackcats on taking the region!

Edited November 21, 200916 yr by mcpapa
R13

Congrats Prestonburg!

 

Later.

With Corbin's style of play you can't afford to give the ball up 7 times and expect to win 3 fumbles(Fritz,Taylor,Squib kick)2 INT's(Mitchell,Watkins)and stopped on 4th down 3 times. I thought the Corbin defense played well enough to win but the offense just couldn't get things going. In an earlier post it said the TO's didn't lead to any P'burg points but I say it did because twice after P'burg stopped Corbin on 4th down attempts they went down and scored touchdowns and then they kicked a FG after recovering squib kick before halftime. That was 16 points off of TO's and that was the difference in the game. P'burg stopped Corbin on 4th and 1 around the 30 with about 3:00 left before halftime. P'burg then scored 10 points in 3:00 which took the wind out of Corbin's sails.

 

Did we get a little out of our offense? It did sound as though we did on the radio. I know the halftime stats had us out-gaining Pburg by around 100 yards and dominating time of possesion, but P'burg dominating the scoreboard.... sometimes it just happens that way.

 

Not an upset by any means, but Corbin had their opportunities.

 

My opinion....(which means squat)...late in the 2nd qtr, why give it to to Taylor on 4th and 1? :confused: , ride your horse not your pony....Turning point of the game, IMO.....Watkins was the best player on the field in every game Corbin played this year and was treated as such by most opposing teams, but not by our coaching staff.

 

Nice season Hounds.

 

Good luck to the Blackcats. I feel they have the best chance from this side of the state to upset Ft. Campbell....

With Corbin's style of play you can't afford to give the ball up 7 times and expect to win 3 fumbles(Fritz,Taylor,Squib kick)2 INT's(Mitchell,Watkins)and stopped on 4th down 3 times. I thought the Corbin defense played well enough to win but the offense just couldn't get things going. In an earlier post it said the TO's didn't lead to any P'burg points but I say it did because twice after P'burg stopped Corbin on 4th down attempts they went down and scored touchdowns and then they kicked a FG after recovering squib kick before halftime. That was 16 points off of TO's and that was the difference in the game. P'burg stopped Corbin on 4th and 1 around the 30 with about 3:00 left before halftime. P'burg then scored 10 points in 3:00 which took the wind out of Corbin's sails.

 

 

Well... the squib is a muff, not a fumble, as the receiving team never gained possession of the football. Did that ball have some evil spin on it, or what ? It didn't make one honest bounce...

 

Is it really legit to consider "turning it over on downs" as a "turnover" ? If so, they're being grossly undercounted in the scoring books and records.

 

I agree on the 10 point swing at the end of the 1st half being a big turning point. And after the lead went to 3 scores...Corbin's offense just isn't designed to come from behind.

 

 

:bunny:

Congrats Pburg! Hope you guys win it all. Glad people around the state are going to get to see Burchett play.

So Corbin beat Corbin, not P-Burg, does that mean that Corbin advances too? No P-Burg may have had something to do with all those turnovers which would give them the credit.

 

You dont understand what that statement was saying.

Did we get a little out of our offense? It did sound as though we did on the radio. I know the halftime stats had us out-gaining Pburg by around 100 yards and dominating time of possesion, but P'burg dominating the scoreboard.... sometimes it just happens that way.

 

Not an upset by any means, but Corbin had their opportunities.

 

My opinion....(which means squat)...late in the 2nd qtr, why give it to to Taylor on 4th and 1? :confused: , ride your horse not your pony....Turning point of the game, IMO.....Watkins was the best player on the field in every game Corbin played this year and was treated as such by most opposing teams, but not by our coaching staff.

 

Nice season Hounds.

 

Good luck to the Blackcats. I feel they have the best chance from this side of the state to upset Ft. Campbell....

I agree Watkins is a good player and so was all the other guys on the feild Watkins had a great year but could not have been done with out all of the other players.

Why wasn't Manns playing defensive tackle all along?

I am a Corbin fan, and have been for years, but this one is tough to swallow. Many, many missed opportunities in this game.

 

As a fan, I think what bothered me the most driving down Hal Rogers back to home, is that in the last couple of years I haven noticed Corbin is losing their style of physical, agressive football. Outside of Taylor and Watkins, I saw very few big hits this year. Prestonsburg came out, smacked us in the mouth, played us physical, and we never responded.

 

Corbin had another good year, but until we once again become a physical football team, that plays with agression and passion, these are the types of years we will have. We'll beat who we should, and lose the to the first team that hits us.

Corbin had more offensive production by 20-30 yds.. 95% of the Hound's came from the run, whereas 95% of the Blackcat's came through the air.

 

This game is a great example of the biggest problem with the "3 yds. and a cloud of dust" play style. Even if an offense averages 4-5 yds./rush, it takes 12 or more plays to get across the goal line. Here's the point: it's far more likely something BAD (penalty or fumble) will mess the drive up than scoring the TD.

 

The Prestonsburg defense is designed to take away big plays, both on the ground and in the air. Other than Watkins' (?) completion of a pretty HB option pass (which lead to Corbin's only score), it was very successful in surrendering NO big gainers (>15 yds) all night.

 

Prestonsburg's offense took more than a quarter to get untracked. Burchett was off-target in the first quarter, and the receivers dropped a few open passes in the 2nd. It improved later in the 2nd and the Blackcats put together some nice completions to take the lead. Corbin's secondary was quick to the ball and did a good job minimizing yards gained after completions, however.

 

P-burg's 2nd half scoring play was pure good luck. The Blackcats had the ball at the Corbin 10. The Hound defender made a nice break on an out pattern, but the ball bounced off his hands and into the hands of the P-burg receiver. Another 3 points came thanks to a great hustling play during a kickoff towards the end of the first half. A squib kick (after P-burg's 2nd TD) sent the ball to around the 20 yd. line. Craynon (#25 for P) beat the receiving team to the ball. Prestonsburg ended up kicking a 37 yd. FG.

 

 

Score at the half: 17-7

Final: 23-7

 

Prestonburg's defense made Corbin make long drives and the Hounds have not really had to do that much this year, plus the P-burg defense came up big every time on 4th and short. I can't help but play the old "iffin" game as Jerry Claiborne used to call it, such as; 1. what if Corbin did not have to go 15 yards to get first downs on so many of their drives due to 8 procedure penalties, the 4th downs would already be 1st downs? 2. what if Corbin ever released the TE on the short yardage plays for what looked to be wide open opportunities for scores? 3. What if Corbin didn't turn it over 4 or 5 times???

 

Congrats to the Bearcats, they did what good teams do by forcing the other team to make mistakes and playing solid, fundamental football

Prestonburg's defense made Corbin make long drives and the Hounds have not really had to do that much this year, plus the P-burg defense came up big every time on 4th and short. I can't help but play the old "iffin" game as Jerry Claiborne used to call it, such as; 1. what if Corbin did not have to go 15 yards to get first downs on so many of their drives due to 8 procedure penalties, the 4th downs would already be 1st downs? 2. what if Corbin ever released the TE on the short yardage plays for what looked to be wide open opportunities for scores? 3. What if Corbin didn't turn it over 4 or 5 times???

 

Congrats to the Bearcats, they did what good teams do by forcing the other team to make mistakes and playing solid, fundamental football

 

Once again the arm is stronger than the legs, must have some passing attach if Corbin ever wants to end what is now 28 years without a state tiltle. Pulaskia region 5a winner has both a passing and running attach, Somerset the 3a regional champ has a balanced attach,Hazard 1A regional champs has a balanced attach, Prestonsburg is very balanced even Bell County with that great running game is throwing the ball about 11 times a game. It is hard to convert the 3rd and long without a established passing game on a good team, and in the regional finales you are not going to meet any pushovers. But passing only on 3rd and long or playing catch up is not an way to establish a passing attach.

Once again the arm is stronger than the legs, must have some passing attach if Corbin ever wants to end what is now 28 years without a state tiltle. Pulaskia region 5a winner has both a passing and running attach, Somerset the 3a regional champ has a balanced attach,Hazard 1A regional champs has a balanced attach, Prestonsburg is very balanced even Bell County with that great running game is throwing the ball about 11 times a game. It is hard to convert the 3rd and long without a established passing game on a good team, and in the regional finales you are not going to meet any pushovers. But passing only on 3rd and long or playing catch up is not an way to establish a passing attach.

 

Your right, but sometimes you just have to use what you have. It seems at Corbin it's either feast or famine. During Cashen's four years it was spread'em out and pass, pass, pass without any run game, for the past two years its been the opposite. It has been a long time since we had a good balance. By the way, I also remember when it was a spread offense that we put up some goose eggs.

Did we get a little out of our offense? It did sound as though we did on the radio. I know the halftime stats had us out-gaining Pburg by around 100 yards and dominating time of possesion, but P'burg dominating the scoreboard.... sometimes it just happens that way.

 

Not an upset by any means, but Corbin had their opportunities.

 

My opinion....(which means squat)...late in the 2nd qtr, why give it to to Taylor on 4th and 1? :confused: , ride your horse not your pony....Turning point of the game, IMO.....Watkins was the best player on the field in every game Corbin played this year and was treated as such by most opposing teams, but not by our coaching staff.

 

Nice season Hounds.

 

Good luck to the Blackcats. I feel they have the best chance from this side of the state to upset Ft. Campbell....

 

I had no problem with giving it to Taylor, he is a very tough guy to tackle. I would like to have seen Watkins or Taylor either one run the ball out of the wildcat formation on the short yardage plays. I also feel that Mitchell could have been a weapon running the ball, something that was not utilized at all this year, but that is just grandstand coaching on my part, which is usually pretty easy.:idunno:

Prestonburg's defense made Corbin make long drives and the Hounds have not really had to do that much this year, plus the P-burg defense came up big every time on 4th and short. I can't help but play the old "iffin" game as Jerry Claiborne used to call it, such as; 1. what if Corbin did not have to go 15 yards to get first downs on so many of their drives due to 8 procedure penalties, the 4th downs would already be 1st downs? 2. what if Corbin ever released the TE on the short yardage plays for what looked to be wide open opportunities for scores? 3. What if Corbin didn't turn it over 4 or 5 times???

 

Congrats to the Bearcats, they did what good teams do by forcing the other team to make mistakes and playing solid, fundamental football

 

 

That was exactly what I was alluding to before.

 

There are two ways to approach beating a strong power running team: either bulk up and stack the LOS (meeting it head on and trying to stop it cold), or play the LOS in layers in preventing breakouts (forcing the offense to run a lot of plays). It's either "brick wall" or "molassus" style defense... LOL.

 

The first approach is all or none. It yields 3-and-outs, but it can give up HUGE gainers when the first wave of tacklers is penetrated.

 

The second approach is prone to giving up drives and can put a team in a field position disadvantage, but...unless the offense is flawless for 10 or more plays, it will get the ball back without the same risk of giving up a big gainer.

 

A lot of it is personel, also... Prestonsburg doesn't have the kind of size in the trenches to brick wall a strong power offense. Instead, it attempts to play off its advantage in speed in closing gaps and pursuing the ball. It gives up yards, but in small doses.

Edited November 23, 200916 yr by oneijoe

I am a Corbin fan, and have been for years, but this one is tough to swallow. Many, many missed opportunities in this game.

 

As a fan, I think what bothered me the most driving down Hal Rogers back to home, is that in the last couple of years I haven noticed Corbin is losing their style of physical, agressive football. Outside of Taylor and Watkins, I saw very few big hits this year. Prestonsburg came out, smacked us in the mouth, played us physical, and we never responded.

 

Corbin had another good year, but until we once again become a physical football team, that plays with agression and passion, these are the types of years we will have. We'll beat who we should, and lose the to the first team that hits us.

 

 

I don't think you're giving your team enough credit. The Corbin defensive front was head-and-shoulders better than any the Blackcats have seen this year. The pass rush was controlled and yielded few running lanes for Burchett. P-burg only had one significant gainer on the ground and that was on a QB draw on a passing down.

 

It's not easy to show a "physical, aggressive" style of play on the defensive side against this style of offense. Prestonsburg throws it all over the place.

 

 

:bunny: