Actually so far this year Cody Meier has been the best hitter...in fact he has been easily one of the best hitters in the 9th so far this season, I believe he has 6-7 doubles already and today he hit shot off the base of the right field wall (as said before, the longest single you will ever see).

 

 

I'm not familiar with Ryle's hitters. I am just familiar with CovCath's, and know what they are capable of and obviously they are not to that level yet. As you said, Isler is hitting it, but the rest of our "potent" lineup is not doing too overwhelmingly great. I have been impressed with Darner though, he just didn't have it today is all. But on the same token, Etschied is Ryle's best player right? He had a very nice hit today. All I am saying is that both teams bats are SURE to pick up. I'm just of the opinion that CovCath's pick up will be more productive and noticable than Ryle's. I could be wrong, it's early yet.

So I'm sure you'll then also agree that CCH's pitching didn't hold Ryle's bats down and it had to do with Ryle just not hitting the way they should? And both our pitchers just pitched Tuesday, I believe, so only one more day rest than Isler.

 

Ryle's Cody Meier is one of the top hitters in NKY. He is one kid I would not want to be facing if I was a pitcher going against Ryle in a critical situation.

 

I can't remember what Meier did at the plate today, but I do remember thinking he definitely looked like a hitter lol.

 

And I do agree, CovCath's pitching did not hold Ryle down today. I think it did it's job fairly well though. I don't know if Ryle's hitting was good or not for them, I don't follow the team very closely. I think they hit well on the hits they did get off Isler, who is a top pitcher in NKY regardless of if he had an off day or not. I just think CovCath should have been able to do more against the first pitcher today, the bats just aren't there yet. We can go in circles about this all night, and it could be that I'm not making myself clear, but at this point I'm far too tired to try to clear things up. Off to bed and hoping for some good baseball weather this week..

So where was the high 80's everyone has been talking about on here for Isler. I was at the game and he was just above 80 at best. Seems funny you guys never give credit to the other pitching staffs when they hold you down... it only becomes CCH's own hitting problems that cause it. This game could have gone either way today and give credit to Cov Cathfor taking advantage of for multiple walks in one innings to win the game.

 

 

That your job, as it's your team, so fire away and give them the credit, or the kick in the butt if they deserve it, as that's certainly not for me to say, or to write about.

 

If you want their stats PM me, but it's not my job, to report on your team.

 

CovCath did take advantage of the walks that Ryle gave them today. In the second inning the Ryle pitcher walked the CovCath 8th, 9th and the 1st CovCath batters (with two outs) but CovCath didn't score. 3rd was when Ice hit the HR one run. 4th CovCath scored two runs with the aid of one walk but CovCath was more than kind to Ryle by getting thrown out at the plate and at second base (or you could say good "D" half empty or half full as I wrote). Sixth CovCath scored one run via a walk a SB and a single, but thats what good team do, beat you when you make a mistake. That's six walks Ryle pitchers gave up, and CovCath only took advnatage of two of them. So I think your statement was a bit off.

 

BTW one of Ryle two runs was scored via a walk. Those pesky walks always seem to come back and haunt a pitcher. Isler walked two and one came back to haunt him.

 

As far as the upper 80's, talk to the Xavier University Head Baseball Coach about it, I don't have a gun. Seems funny though, that he is getting some pretty serious looks from some D1 schools and that now includes the University of Cincinnati.

I guess no one caught my friendly shot at The Old Guy in post #3...love ya TOG!

 

Cov Cath has scoreboard today for sure, but in the end there are a bunch of "take away's" from this game.

Edited April 5, 200917 yr by The Great Game

That your job, as it's your team, so fire away and give them the credit, or the kick in the butt if they deserve it, as that's certainly not for me to say, or to write about.

 

If you want their stats PM me, but it's not my job, to report on your team.

 

CovCath did take advantage of the walks that Ryle gave them today. In the second inning the Ryle pitcher walked the CovCath 8th, 9th and the 1st CovCath batters (with two outs) but CovCath didn't score. 3rd was when Ice hit the HR one run. 4th CovCath scored two runs with the aid of one walk but CovCath was more than kind to Ryle by getting thrown out at the plate and at second base (or you could say good "D" half empty or half full as I wrote). Sixth CovCath scored one run via a walk a SB and a single, but thats what good team do, beat you when you make a mistake. That's six walks Ryle pitchers gave up, and CovCath only took advnatage of two of them. So I think your statement was a bit off.

 

BTW one of Ryle two runs was scored via a walk. Those pesky walks always seem to come back and haunt a pitcher. Isler walked two and one came back to haunt him.

 

As far as the upper 80's, talk to the Xavier University Head Baseball Coach about it, I don't have a gun. Seems funny though, that he is getting some pretty serious looks from some D1 schools and that now includes the University of Cincinnati.

 

I already have a job and dont count every stat at the game...I just observe. If you call that ball a hit that was right at the 2nd baseman in the 6th inning then Ryle actually out hit Cov Cath today, plus a curve ball in the dirt off the catchers pads doesn't equal a SB. I think you may be being a bit to generous. :idunno:

I guess no one caught my friendly shot at The Old Guy in post #3...love ya TOG!

 

Cov Cath has scoreboard today for sure, but in the end there a bunch of "take away's" from this game.

 

I agree. This game doesn't change anything - CCH is still currently the team to beat in the 9th this season. But as opposed to the pre-season, when I genuinely did not feel that anyone would offer much of a threat to them, I am now coming around to beleive that there will be at least 3-4 teams and possibly another 1-2 that will indeed issue a strong challenge to CCH and will walk away with a win..

 

And if nothing else - whether you are pro-CCH, pro-Ryle, pro-Conner, pro-NCC, pro-HC, pro-Dixie, pro-Boone, or pro-some other team, there's going to be some very competitive games hammered out on the fields this region. If you like baseball, this season should be a treat.

I already have a job and dont count every stat at the game...I just observe. If you call that ball a hit that was right at the 2nd baseman in the 6th inning then Ryle actually out hit Cov Cath today. I think you may be being a bit to generous. :idunno:

 

Actually, had five or six tell me it was a hit, and believe it or not, all of them were not CovCath fans! :idunno: Then again CovCath didn't need the run to beat the Raiders today.

I have a job also, but going to the games and keeping score is my way of getting my mind away from the work I do. It relaxes me, and it's nice to see kids playing a game with the skill and ability my guys could only dream about. I truly wish the HS games were earlier in the day like some of the summer baseball tournaments are, as my guys love to come and watch the Ky. Colonels play. Walt, Denny and all the young men on the team were great last year and they had a ball watching the games, eating their hot dogs and drinking the pop, and I know they hope to be invited back this summer too.

TOG, I am not going to get into a debate on who loves baseball more or the different ways we enjoy watching the game. You choose and enjoy keeping score and stats and I think its cool...you also keep all of us well informed:thumb: I choose to go to games and observe and look for the little things that make baseball so great. Now, like you I have been watching baseball for many years and was fortunate to play Div 1 and I can tell you that a ball hit in the infield directly at a player, who didn't even really have to move, then bounces off their glove, then shoulder, and falls 10-15 feet behind and to the right of him is a hit, since when? No matter how hard a ball is hit, and this one was hit somewhat hard but not a rocket, if its right at a player and is not fielded it is an error, and in this case it even hit the infielders glove and body. Also,the SB you counted in the same inning was a wild pitch in every game I have ever watched, curve ball 59 feet in the dirt bounces off the catcher and the runner took the base, sorry that's not a steal. You are a great baseball fan, and a Cov Cath homer and that's ok, but it seems to be skewing your stat keeping a bit.

 

 

Actually, had five or six tell me it was a hit, and believe it or not, all of them were not CovCath fans! :idunno: Then again CovCath didn't need the run to beat the Raiders today.

I have a job also, but going to the games and keeping score is my way of getting my mind away from the work I do. It relaxes me, and it's nice to see kids playing a game with the skill and ability my guys could only dream about. I truly wish the HS games were earlier in the day like some of the summer baseball tournaments are, as my guys love to come and watch the Ky. Colonels play. Walt, Denny and all the young men on the team were great last year and they had a ball watching the games, eating their hot dogs and drinking the pop, and I know they hope to be invited back this summer too.

So where was the high 80's everyone has been talking about on here for Isler. I was at the game and he was just above 80 at best. Seems funny you guys never give credit to the other pitching staffs when they hold you down... it only becomes CCH's own hitting problems that cause it. This game could have gone either way today and give credit to Cov Cath for taking advantage of mltiple walks in one innings to win the game.

My take on this is that it is a very positive sign for Cov Cath when Isler doesn't have his best stuff and still throws harder than most NKY pitchers and keeps good teams to 2 runs.:thumb:

TOG, I am not going to get into a debate on who loves baseball more or the different ways we enjoy watching the game. You choose and enjoy keeping score and stats and I think its cool...you also keep all of us well informed:thumb: I choose to go to games and observe and look for the little things that make baseball so great. Now, like you I have been watching baseball for many years and was fortunate to play Div 1 and I can tell you that a ball hit in the infield directly at a player, who didn't even really have to move, then bounces off their glove, then shoulder, and falls 10-15 feet behind and to the right of him is a hit, since when? No matter how hard a ball is hit, and this one was hit somewhat hard but not a rocket, if its right at a player and is not fielded it is an error, and in this case it even hit the infielders glove and body. Also,the SB you counted in the same inning was a wild pitch in every game I have ever watched, curve ball 59 feet in the dirt bounces off the catcher and the runner took the base, sorry that's not a steal. You are a great baseball fan, and a Cov Cath homer and that's ok, but it seems to be skewing your stat keeping a bit.

 

 

 

 

In baseball [statistics], an error is the act, in the judgment of the official scorer, of a fielder misplaying a ball in a manner that allows a batter or baserunner to reach one or more additional bases, when such an advance should have been prevented given ordinary effort by the fielder. It is also an error when a fielder muffs a foul fly to prolong the time at bat of a batter, whether the batter subsequently reaches first base or is put out.

 

In the play, IMO and in those around me, it would have taken more than a ordinary effort by a HS kid to catch/field the ball. Now if this were a MLB game, or even a College game I would have given the play an error, but this was a HS game, early in the season, so I am going to favor both the fielder and the hitter!

 

The stolen base:

 

10.07 Stolen Bases And Caught Stealing

The official scorer shall credit a stolen base to a runner whenever the runner advances one base unaided by a hit, a putout, an error, a force-out, a fielder's choice, a passed ball, a wild pitch or a balk, subject to the following:

(a) When a runner starts for the next base before the pitcher delivers the ball and the pitch results in what ordinarily is scored a wild pitch or passed ball, the official scorer shall credit the runner with a stolen base and shall not charge the misplay, unless, as a result of the misplay, the stealing runner advances an extra base, or another runner also advances, in which case the official scorer shall score the wild pitch or passed ball as well as the stolen base.

 

Note: Nutini was on his way to second as soon as the pitcher went past the point of no return, and prior to him throwing the ball home. As is the case 99.9% of the time, a stolen bases is usually earned against the pitcher and not the catcher. IMO, the cather had no chance of throwing out Nutini, if he indeed caught the ball and made the throw, Nutini had a great jump on the ball.

 

Remember all of this is just IMO, but if a call is in question, I usually ask those around me for their judgments also!:thumb:

If that was considered extra-ordinary effort, he didn't even have to move, then you probably have very few errors in your score book, especially on the Cov Cath pages...lol. I guess the point of it being in the judgment of the official scorer even furthers my stance. An error is an error whether it's t-ball or the major leagues. You just are making up your own judgment on what is considered ordinary effort.

 

As stated, in the end Cov Cath has scoreboard, so our difference in opinions on whether it was a hit or SB don't really matter .

Cov Cath is for real. Ryle and Cov Cath always play each other tough.

It remains to be seen if Cov cath is as good as their "07 team, not saying that they won't will win the region in '09. Has a lot to do with match ups etc. and senior leadership. The 2007 Cov Cath team had a bunch of senior leaders.

Cov Cath is for real. Ryle and Cov Cath always play each other tough.

It remains to be seen if Cov cath is as good as their "07 team, not saying that they won't will win the region in '09. Has a lot to do with match ups etc. and senior leadership. The 2007 Cov Cath team had a bunch of senior leaders.

 

The 09 team is hoping the are better than the 08 and 07 2nd place teams.

The issue at hand here on the ball hit by Siemer to Carney is how do you handle a ball that bounces up off of the chest of the defender from a statistical viewpoint? Did he miss it? Technically, yes. However, a ball off the chest is not an error in my book although 99% of the time it is scored that way.

The issue at hand here on the ball hit by Siemer to Carney is how do you handle a ball that bounces up off of the chest of the defender from a statistical viewpoint? Did he miss it? Technically, yes. However, a ball off the chest is not an error in my book although 99% of the time it is scored that way.

 

I personally thought it was an error.