March 28, 200917 yr Author Socialism is government takeover. All you have to do is go to a dictionary. Yet some people refuse to see what is in front of them. Timmy the Tax Cheat wants to have the power to 'nationalize' businesses in the name of regulation. Take a look around, there are plenty of regulations already in place to contol businesses. The government failed do its job at many different levels. Gov. Huckabee said it well on the Fox News Show this morning, what Timmy the Tax Cheat wants to do is no different than what Chavez is doing in nationalizing his countries private businesses. What is dangerous is people who fail to see what is going on because of their personal hatred of what we call big business. Big business has their problems, government has oversight but they failed to do their job. I have seen government failure of program after program, each having the greatest of intentions. They all now have their problems because of bloated bureacracy, greed of both individuals receiving the aid that they should not receive and greed of government workers protecting their domain. Huckabee also said "How many would want to buy a car designed by the government?" Personally not me. Government needs use the powers they have to get the job done. This is not much different than those who call for more gun laws, when there are over 20,000 gun laws in the country. We need enforcement, not more laws. Big Brother needs to go away.
March 28, 200917 yr Socialism is government takeover. All you have to do is go to a dictionary. Yet some people refuse to see what is in front of them. Timmy the Tax Cheat wants to have the power to 'nationalize' businesses in the name of regulation. . To be clear, are you talking about his proposal to have the govt be allowed to take over failing non-bank financial institutions? If I remember correctly, he wants to have the govt be allowed to put a failing non-bank into receivership, correct? Is this what you refer to above?
March 28, 200917 yr That is not the definition of socialism. I got an email from someone on Thursday telling me that I need to go read Karl Marx and that Obama is a Socialist just like him and then it referenced something about democracy as an economic system. Not saying this about you BBall but alot of people who get all stirred up about this stuff have no concept of the differences between the repective "ism's"
March 28, 200917 yr Socialism is government takeover. All you have to do is go to a dictionary. Yet some people refuse to see what is in front of them. Timmy the Tax Cheat wants to have the power to 'nationalize' businesses in the name of regulation. Take a look around, there are plenty of regulations already in place to contol businesses. The government failed do its job at many different levels. Gov. Huckabee said it well on the Fox News Show this morning, what Timmy the Tax Cheat wants to do is no different than what Chavez is doing in nationalizing his countries private businesses. What is dangerous is people who fail to see what is going on because of their personal hatred of what we call big business. Big business has their problems, government has oversight but they failed to do their job. I have seen government failure of program after program, each having the greatest of intentions. They all now have their problems because of bloated bureacracy, greed of both individuals receiving the aid that they should not receive and greed of government workers protecting their domain. Huckabee also said "How many would want to buy a car designed by the government?" Personally not me. Government needs use the powers they have to get the job done. This is not much different than those who call for more gun laws, when there are over 20,000 gun laws in the country. We need enforcement, not more laws. Big Brother needs to go away. Amen Brother! The sad part is that you're wasting your breath arguing with anyone that supports BHO. The same can be said about them arguing with non-supporters of BHO. They simply won't give until the government is right in the bed with them. They won't give until they have to wait 6 years to get that knee surgery their Dr. says they need. In other words, they're not going to give until it's too late.
March 28, 200917 yr Amen Brother! The sad part is that you're wasting your breath arguing with anyone that supports BHO. The same can be said about them arguing with non-supporters of BHO. They simply won't give until the government is right in the bed with them. They won't give until they have to wait 6 years to get that knee surgery their Dr. says they need. In other words, they're not going to give until it's too late. On the bright side, when I do get that knee surgery, it may be paid for by you!
March 28, 200917 yr On the bright side, when I do get that knee surgery, it may be paid for by you! :thumb:
March 28, 200917 yr That is not the definition of socialism. :thumb: Why disturb anyone's distorted views with facts?
March 28, 200917 yr That is not the definition of socialism. Actually, it can be a rather rough and incomplete definition of socialism. He didn't specify the production and distribution of goods.
March 28, 200917 yr Actually, it can be a rather rough and incomplete definition of socialism. He didn't specify the production and distribution of goods. Rough and incomplete is being kind. The latter part of your sentence is where people who like to throw the "Socialist" tag around lose credibility.
March 28, 200917 yr Rough and incomplete is being kind. The latter part of your sentence is where people who like to throw the "Socialist" tag around lose credibility. I'm not accused of being kind too often.
March 29, 200917 yr Author That is not the definition of socialism. May I have your definition, since you think my is wrong? Timmy the Tax Cheat wants to do more than receivership. These guys want total control of our lives. There are already laws in place to take care of the current situation. What happens is that a law is passed and as time goes by someone in power later twists the law for their own use. Use the laws they have, they do not not need more power.
March 29, 200917 yr May I have your definition, since you think my is wrong? . Since you can't go look it up yourself: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods So tell us again how the President is a socialist.
March 29, 200917 yr Timmy the Tax Cheat wants to do more than receivership. These guys want total control of our lives. There are already laws in place to take care of the current situation. What happens is that a law is passed and as time goes by someone in power later twists the law for their own use. Use the laws they have, they do not not need more power. Give us some examples of how they want total control of our lives. Also, are you telling me that this receivership plan is limited to the President?
March 30, 200917 yr Author Health care, putting smart thermostats in your home, asking the GM boss to step down (in reality firing him), wanting more control over business, taxing people at 90%. It is disguised as something else, but he is not going to admit to government control. It is all done for the bettering of the country. What he is doing is no different than what the militarists of Japan, the Fascists of Italy and the Nazis in Germany did in the 1920's and 30's. A little here, a little there in the name of helping the little people, when in reality everyones freedoms are being whittled away. All of this would have worked out if Bush had not started all this socialistic mess last fall. The ups and downs of the business world would have taken care of it all. Only utopian elitists think they can control the natural order of the world.
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