October 24, 200817 yr That is not what he said and you are being intellectually dishonest attempting to spin this. His exact words were... "if they make a mistake I don't want them punished with a baby" Now how do you turn that into that he was talking about if they were raped? Spin much? So much people are getting dizzy.
October 24, 200817 yr Because you say I am being dishonest doesn't make it so. That is not what he meant and it sure isn't what he said. Again, spin it to fit what you want but you would be wrong. Again I will quote exactly what he said... Those are his exact words. I can't address the McCain portion of your post without repeating myself. See my previous quote for my response. IT IS MCCAIN'S STANCE. I have conceded the point on Obama, did you not read the bolded. He thinks it would be bad for his daughter (punishment) if she was forced to carry out an unwanted pregnancy. CONCEDED I will say again, when it comes to his daughter MCCAIN IS PRO CHOICE, so is he a pro-choice candidate?
October 24, 200817 yr IT IS MCCAIN'S STANCE. I have conceded the point on Obama, did you not read the bolded. He thinks it would be bad for his daughter (punishment) if she was forced to carry out an unwanted pregnancy. CONCEDED I will say again, when it comes to his daughter MCCAIN IS PRO CHOICE, so is he a pro-choice candidate? It is his daughter's choice. McCain can't make her have the baby. He can tell her to no end that she should have the kid, but if at the end of the day she still wanted to kill it, she would have that choice. Surely that isn't that hard to comprehend.
October 25, 200817 yr Author You know what, I don't get in trouble if you call me on something and, I am not trying to lie about anything. OBAMA IS PRO CHOICE - HE THINKS IT WOULD BE BAD IF SOMEONE MADE HIS DAUGHTER CARRY A PREGNANCY TO FULL TERM IF THAT IS NOT WHAT SHE WOULD CHOOSE - Is there anything that is missing from that statementThat statement that he had at that rally has been discussed as nauseum. As was said before it is old news. and FWIW you are still be dishonest in that you know good and well what he meant. McCain claims to be pro-Life, then when the situation was presented to him, he said it would be his daughter's choice. That is pro-Choice. That is what all pro-choice people say. When someone is pregnant, it is their choice. He did not say - "no I would not allow my daughter to have an abortion b/c it is a sin" - he said he would give his daughter the choice. Obama's new mantra.....unwanted grandchilren, BAD!!!!! We have slipped as a great country when our grandchildren and children are punishment and bad. And slip even further when people DEFEND that our grandchildren and children are punishment and bad.
October 25, 200817 yr Is there a reason why this is resurfacing now? After all, the quote was made in March or April.
October 25, 200817 yr Author ^ Never mind; I just read the first post. New campaign advertisement. Funny. Post 51 and you say "you JUST read the first post." Funny.:lol::lol::lol:
October 25, 200817 yr Funny. Post 51 and you say "you JUST read the first post." Funny.:lol::lol::lol: Strange but true. I often read the last post or two first. It's the mod coming out in me; assuming that my moderator brethren (and sistren, if that's a word) have taken care of the bad guys early in the thread.
October 26, 200817 yr IT IS MCCAIN'S STANCE. I have conceded the point on Obama, did you not read the bolded. He thinks it would be bad for his daughter (punishment) if she was forced to carry out an unwanted pregnancy. CONCEDED I will say again, when it comes to his daughter MCCAIN IS PRO CHOICE, so is he a pro-choice candidate? NO IT ISN'T MCCAIN'S STANCE. It said it would be his daughter's choice. He can't force his daughter one way or the other. This isn't that hard. And you concluded nothing on Obama. You continue to change what he said. If you truly believe in your own view of abortion then concede what he actually said. He said the baby is the punishment not being forced to carry out an unwanted pregnacy.
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