October 21, 200817 yr Its kind of self explainatory (hence the name) If you are implying that the school voucher system would "leave children behind" then you either need to explain further or retract your statement. The voucher system would leave inefficient schools behind. I have no sympathy for wasted resources.
October 21, 200817 yr Author IMO, the fact that people are worried that schools will be decimated by a huge departure of "good" students makes me feel even more strongly that there is something seriously wrong with the state of public education as a whole. Schools should work to be a school students and families are committed to, not one that they want to flee. Agreed, but federal and state standards do not allow this....I'm wondering that if private schools accept these vouchers if they will then in turn have to meet federal/state regulations in regards to testing...etc.
October 21, 200817 yr Author If you are implying that the school voucher system would "leave children behind" then you either need to explain further or retract your statement. The voucher system would leave inefficient schools behind. I have no sympathy for wasted resources. IMO as of today, in Kentucky, there is no way to accurately know what schools are inefficient because we are not tested on how students improve at our school.....rather our 8th graders were tested last year....they move to 9th grade, the 8th graders that are sitting in their same seats this year are tested and then the two groups are compared and the school is judged if it is efficent or not. Students should be tracked, which would in turn allow for a better judgement on school preformance IMO.
October 21, 200817 yr IMO as of today, in Kentucky, there is no way to accurately know what schools are inefficient because we are not tested on how students improve at our school.....rather our 8th graders were tested last year....they move to 9th grade, the 8th graders that are sitting in their same seats this year are tested and then the two groups are compared and the school is judged if it is efficent or not. Students should be tracked, which would in turn allow for a better judgement on school preformance IMO. The parents and students know which schools are good. There is no need for a test. The students, and their vouchers, will go to the good school and the inefficient (bad) schools will be left with no students and no money. They will lose. It is survival of the fittest with the winner being the American school children.
October 21, 200817 yr Author The parents and students know which schools are good. There is no need for a test. The students, and their vouchers, will go to the good school and the inefficient (bad) schools will be left with no students and no money. They will lose. It is survival of the fittest with the winner being the American school children. So in essence all schools will be public. What will happen to the current infrastructure that is set up in your local community when all of the schools get shut down because they are inefficient schools? Where is your sense of community ....?
October 21, 200817 yr Agreed, but federal and state standards do not allow this....I'm wondering that if private schools accept these vouchers if they will then in turn have to meet federal/state regulations in regards to testing...etc. I would suspect that schools that wish to remain private, with all the privileges that affords, will choose to not accept federal funding.
October 21, 200817 yr So in essence all schools will be public. What will happen to the current infrastructure that is set up in your local community when all of the schools get shut down because they are inefficient schools? Where is your sense of community ....? Who cares if a current school gets shut down because it is inefficient. Why should the community be rallying around a school that is not doing its job?
October 21, 200817 yr IMO, the fact that people are worried that schools will be decimated by a huge departure of "good" students makes me feel even more strongly that there is something seriously wrong with the state of public education as a whole. Schools should work to be a school students and families are committed to, not one that they want to flee. :thumb:
October 21, 200817 yr IMO, the fact that people are worried that schools will be decimated by a huge departure of "good" students makes me feel even more strongly that there is something seriously wrong with the state of public education as a whole. Schools should work to be a school students and families are committed to, not one that they want to flee. I agree that there are LOTS of things seriously wrong with the state of public education.
October 21, 200817 yr When one of these presidential candidates gets rid of NCLB and makes it hard for a kid to be classified "special ed" and allows us to hold kids responsible for their actions - I'll vote for them. More trade schools. Less forcing kids to take college prep for kids who have no intention of going. Teacher rewards based on where students are when they come to that teacher compared to where they are when the student leaves that classroom. School rewards based on student improvement from the time they arrive to the time they leave the school. Who has that platform?
October 21, 200817 yr Author When one of these presidential candidates gets rid of NCLB and makes it hard for a kid to be classified "special ed" and allows us to hold kids responsible for their actions - I'll vote for them. More trade schools. Less forcing kids to take college prep for kids who have no intention of going. Teacher rewards based on where students are when they come to that teacher compared to where they are when the student leaves that classroom. School rewards based on student improvement from the time they arrive to the time they leave the school. Who has that platform? Plato for President :dancingpa
October 21, 200817 yr Plato for President :dancingpa Write me in. I don't know much about foreign policy, but I know I could save the country at least 700 billion right off the bat.:jump:
October 21, 200817 yr When one of these presidential candidates gets rid of NCLB and makes it hard for a kid to be classified "special ed" and allows us to hold kids responsible for their actions - I'll vote for them. More trade schools. Less forcing kids to take college prep for kids who have no intention of going. Teacher rewards based on where students are when they come to that teacher compared to where they are when the student leaves that classroom. School rewards based on student improvement from the time they arrive to the time they leave the school. Who has that platform? The principles behind these things you propose would be solved by a school voucher system. Vouchers allow parents and families to determine who gets the rewards. The teachers at schools that the people who hold the vouchers determine (the families of students) will be out of a job, because there school will get shut down for not performing. Theoretically, there would be trade schools as well. Families could choose to send their children (using the school vouchers) there instead of college prep institutions. I'd address your first sentence, but I am unfamiliar with how NCLB works. Somebody explain it to me.
October 21, 200817 yr Vouchers would, in fact, leave some kids behind. There are a limited number of vouchers, so not every child will get one. They will be "left behind" in the schools that have less money to pay for quality teachers, equipment, and technology. I think we need to work on fixing the public school system instead of taxpayers paying for private schools.
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