Comparing Lincoln/then to Obama/today is apples to oranges no matter how many sarcastic smart alec remarks you want to make. With what is going on in the world today his lack of foreign policy experience alone should be enough to make anyone not vote for him.

 

 

And I could easily turn that thought around on you. With what is going on in the world today, John McCain's advanced age, the fact that the U.S. Presidency is the most stressful, demanding job in the world, and Sarah Palin's utter cluelessness, anyone who votes for McCain/Palin needs to have their head examined.

And I could easily turn that thought around on you. With what is going on in the world today, John McCain's advanced age, the fact that the U.S. Presidency is the most stressful, demanding job in the world, and Sarah Palin's utter cluelessness, anyone who votes for McCain/Palin needs to have their head examined.

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So on the off chance that McCain will die let's vote for a guy that doesn't have a clue. He has no idea what he's doing but at least he isn't old. :thumb:

 

If the best argument you can come up with against McCain is his age then your really reaching.

If I read him right, he's saying the opposite.

 

It's my opinion that people do indeed place too much emphasis on "experience." If experience were important there would be apprenticeships to the President or a Constitutionally mandated amount of specific service required. Having been an executive doesn't make a person more likely to be a better President. Having the right ideas and having the right intangibles to implement them are far more important. At least, that's my opinion.

 

Palin's experience is arguably comparable with Obama's. But, when Palin can't articulate a single cogent thought on the bailout or foreign policy and attempts to mitigate concerns about it with the idea that because of Alaska's geographic relationship to Russia she's somehow experienced in the area I can't help but feel a bit insulted. Even when she has attempted a to-the-point answer she's pre-empted and contradicted McCain's stances. You can point at Obama's stammering and vocal pauses all day, but at least knows the major arguments, which side he advocates, and why.

 

We've had only three interviews with Palin and they've all been poor, most especially the interviews outside of friendly territory. The Couric interview was embarrassing. If these were simple coincidences or if she is capable of better then the campaign wouldn't go to such lengths to shield her from questions.

I disagree. I think that is where the voter has to decide how important experience is.

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So on the off chance that McCain will die let's vote for a guy that doesn't have a clue. He has no idea what he's doing but at least he isn't old. :thumb:

 

If the best argument you can come up with against McCain is his age then your really reaching.

 

 

Doesn't have a clue. Interesting. 18 million voters in the primaries don't agree with your assertion that Obama "doesn't have a clue". Participants in an Gallup/USAToday poll thought Obama had enough of a "clue" to outperform John McCain 46% to 34% in their first debate. Similarly, in a CNN poll, "clueless" Obama outpointed McCain 51% to 38% in the debate. The pre-election polls are trending unfavorably for McCain--his ship appears to be sinking.

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I think that neither party nominated the best the country has to offer, but, the way you are scrutinized today by the press, who would want to go through that. Some of our greatest presidents could have never stood up to the scrutinization by the press today.As far as qualifications go, all 4 meet the constitutional requirements, as we all know. How much executive experience did Washington, Adams, Madison, and Lincoln have before they took office?

So after reading through some responses on these Palin threads, we discover that TB&G and RM both are scared of Palin. Doesn't that say something to those of you who are adamantly supporting Palin?

So after reading through some responses on these Palin threads, we discover that TB&G and RM both are scared of Palin. Doesn't that say something to those of you who are adamantly supporting Palin?

 

 

With reference to me, it proabably only makes them more convinced they're supporting a "good" woman. :lol:

So after reading through some responses on these Palin threads, we discover that TB&G and RM both are scared of Palin. Doesn't that say something to those of you who are adamantly supporting Palin?

 

Why does that mean anything? I don't form my opinions based off what others think or believe...

Why does that mean anything? I don't form my opinions based off what others think or believe...

 

 

Me either, but look where that gets me! :lol:

So after reading through some responses on these Palin threads, we discover that TB&G and RM both are scared of Palin. Doesn't that say something to those of you who are adamantly supporting Palin?

I'm more curious about why people are adamantly supporting her. I haven't seen one real reason yet, only the fact that she's pro-life and likes guns.

Why does that mean anything? I don't form my opinions based off what others think or believe...

 

Step back and look at it. Two women who I'm sure (correct me if I'm wrong) would love nothing more than to see a woman succeed at the highest (well, second highest) of levels. Instead of celebrating, they both agree that Palin isn't ready and was a poor choice for VP. That says nothing to you? It's kind of like HT conceding that Chris Paul was really more deserving of the MVP.

 

Let me go on the record as saying I really have no major issues with McCain. It is the selection of Palin as a VP that I was 100% against. I really really really don't see how anyone can support her as a VP. Mayor of Wasilla? Fine. Governor of Alaska? Ok. Vice President of the United States? Goodness gracious sakes alive NO!

Step back and look at it. Two women who I'm sure (correct me if I'm wrong) would love nothing more than to see a woman succeed at the highest (well, second highest) of levels. Instead of celebrating, they both agree that Palin isn't ready and was a poor choice for VP. That says nothing to you? It's kind of like HT conceding that Chris Paul was really more deserving of the MVP.

 

Let me go on the record as saying I really have no major issues with McCain. It is the selection of Palin as a VP that I was 100% against. I really really really don't see how anyone can support her as a VP. Mayor of Wasilla? Fine. Governor of Alaska? Ok. Vice President of the United States? Goodness gracious sakes alive NO!

 

So if I know an African-American who doesn't think Obama is ready to be president, shouldn't that say something to you? Just because they are two women who don't like Palin, doesn't have any impact on my beliefs.

I'm more curious about why people are adamantly supporting her. I haven't seen one real reason yet, only the fact that she's pro-life and likes guns.

 

I like Palin because she is anti-abortion, is pro-gun, and is not your normal politician. You say you haven't seen any reasons why people support her, then list two in your post....Talk about answering your own question....

I like Palin because she is anti-abortion, is pro-gun, and is not your normal politician. You say you haven't seen any reasons why people support her, then list two in your post....Talk about answering your own question....

Just having a stance on two small issues and obviously knowing little to nothing on the majors is a big problem. I know a few people who are pro-life and pro-guns, I certainly won't be writing their name on the ballot. That's not a reason as to why they should be VP.

Just having a stance on two small issues and obviously knowing little to nothing on the majors is a big problem. I know a few people who are pro-life and pro-guns, I certainly won't be writing their name on the ballot. That's not a reason as to why they should be VP.

 

She's for the war in Iraq, which I agree with, is pro-life, and pro-guns....That's her stance on 3 issues that I feel are very important to me as a voter. IMO those are good reasons.