August 26, 200818 yr I'm extremely skeptical that any team would want damaged goods like Rudi, let alone trading a decent WR for him. If any team needs an RB that badly, there are plenty of guys available on the cheap in the FA market. RBs are a dime a dozen.
August 26, 200818 yr I think the Bengals would love to shop him for a big WR. I would love to have $1,000,000 but it's probably not happening. Wishful thinking on the Bengals part IMO unless they throw in some cash or picks etc. It's not happening straight up.
August 26, 200818 yr They want a star WR but they won't get one for just Rudy. They should have listened too me in the off season when I said trade Chad for Hayensworth + Rudi + cash or a draft pick for R. Williams. We would have R. Williams and Hayensworth instead of an injured basketcase + what should be the Bengals 3rd string RB. That sounds great. The problem is you say that like they actually passed up an opportunity to do it. There was no chance of the Titans trading Haynesworth for Chad Johnson. Nor is there any reason to believe the Lions would give up a young, talented WR for Rudi Johnson and cash...other than Detroits ineptitude in the front office, but I think their love for first round WR's cancels that out. They should have taken the offer from the Redskins. Many of us felt that way when it was first offered. There's no point in criticizing them because Chad is hurt now...no one can predict injuries. It was a good deal for Cincy when Chad was healthy.
August 26, 200818 yr That sounds great. The problem is you say that like they actually passed up an opportunity to do it. There was no chance of the Titans trading Haynesworth for Chad Johnson. Nor is there any reason to believe the Lions would give up a young, talented WR for Rudi Johnson and cash...other than Detroits ineptitude in the front office, but I think their love for first round WR's cancels that out. They should have taken the offer from the Redskins. Many of us felt that way when it was first offered. There's no point in criticizing them because Chad is hurt now...no one can predict injuries. It was a good deal for Cincy when Chad was healthy. The Titans are going to have a hard time signing Albert next season if he produces again and the Lions are trying to move to a power run game. They have Calvin and are willing to deal Williams. Every team involved needs to move their guys and get something out of them. The Lions + Bengals are dumb so they will probably just lose their guys for nothing. The Titans have a solid franchise but they have painted themselves in a corner IMO with Albert.
August 26, 200818 yr As for Rudi, realistically, who might be interested in him? The Texans need a RB, but they've got 4 guys they're looking at right now, so I doubt they'd want to bring another one in. The Broncos will be depending on Selvin Young and Andre Hall with rookie Ryan Torain out for a while. Detroit has rookie Kevin Smith and Tatum Bell. It's possible they'd be interested, but Furrey or McDonald would be the best Cincy could hope for. Actually, that would be a pretty good deal for the Bengals. The Bears are similar to the Texans. I just don't see a market for Rudi Johnson. They're likely stuck with him and an injured WR.
August 26, 200818 yr The Titans are going to have a hard time signing Albert next season if he produces again and the Lions are trying to move to a power run game. They have Calvin and are willing to deal Williams. Every team involved needs to move their guys and get something out of them. The Lions + Bengals are dumb so they will probably just lose their guys for nothing. The Titans have a solid franchise but they have painted themselves in a corner IMO with Albert. The Lions might be willing to deal Williams, I agree. It's just not going to be for Rudi Johnson + cash. Albert Haynesworth is essential to the Titans having a good team in 2008. Trading him for Chad Johnson would be stupid. Even if he does walk at the end of the year, I'd rather have the extra money than Chad Johnson and what he would cost. But, it's not a sure thing that Haynesworth is gone after the season anyway.
August 26, 200818 yr The Lions might be willing to deal Williams, I agree. It's just not going to be for Rudi Johnson + cash. Albert Haynesworth is essential to the Titans having a good team in 2008. Trading him for Chad Johnson would be stupid. Even if he does walk at the end of the year, I'd rather have the extra money than Chad Johnson and what he would cost. But, it's not a sure thing that Haynesworth is gone after the season anyway. Before the draft I think the Lions would have done Rudi and a pick. I also think Tenn would have thought long and hard about giving V. Young a legit #1 knowing that it was going to be tough to sign Albert. I think it's terrible business to keep a guy 1 year when you don't think you can sign him. If you are going to do that then get value out of him IMO. That's just my opinion though. As for Rudi...... I don't know who would want him.
August 26, 200818 yr Could this make it any more clearer that the Bengals need a GM. Mike Brown has offered teams a guy who is coming off an injury plagued 2007 and hasn't played a down this year. For a "proven" wide reciever. Can you imagine the conversations? GM: Mike, I'd be interested if he was the Rudi off old. MB: But he looks great !! GM: Well...when is he going to play? MB: He looks great !! He'll play when the season begins. Geeeezzzzzz !!!! :irked:
August 26, 200818 yr Before the draft I think the Lions would have done Rudi and a pick. I also think Tenn would have thought long and hard about giving V. Young a legit #1 knowing that it was going to be tough to sign Albert. I think it's terrible business to keep a guy 1 year when you don't think you can sign him. If you are going to do that then get value out of him IMO. That's just my opinion though. As for Rudi...... I don't know who would want him. I don't think anyone would want Rudi right now. You may be right about Detroit trading for him before the draft. I don't think Roy Williams would have been available though. It still would have been Furrey or McDonald, which would have been a good trade for both teams. However, had Cincy made a move like that, they'd have probably drafted Rashard Mendenhall with the ninth pick.
August 26, 200818 yr You guys act like it is so shocking that a veteran RB is sitting out of pre season games and some practices (He has been at practice all this week).
August 26, 200818 yr You guys act like it is so shocking that a veteran RB is sitting out of pre season games and some practices (He has been at practice all this week). And in doing so he has lost the starting job. You really think he's healthy and just sitting out preseason. He's not LT.
August 26, 200818 yr You guys act like it is so shocking that a veteran RB is sitting out of pre season games and some practices (He has been at practice all this week). I think the report that he Bengals are shopping Rudi is the reason...not the fact that he's sitting out. Personally, I think it would speak more to the fact that they're confident in Perry and Watson and not confident in the WR situation. Regardless, I don't think there is much of a market for Rudi right now. Most teams are set at RB, and the ones that aren't don't need to add another ? to 3 or 4 they already have.
August 26, 200818 yr And in doing so he has lost the starting job. You really think he's healthy and just sitting out preseason. He's not LT. I think he may have tweaked a little something but for the most part yes I do think he is fine.
August 26, 200818 yr I think he may have tweaked a little something but for the most part yes I do think he is fine. Think he'll play Thursday? I'd like to see him get a little action before Baltimore.
August 26, 200818 yr Think he'll play Thursday? I'd like to see him get a little action before Baltimore. I really don't think it matters who the Bengals RB is. The key is having at least two of them healthy, IMO. Their success, or lack of, will be determined by how the offensive line plays. If the line plays well, the running game will be productive because 1) the line will be playing well and opening up holes:lol: and 2) the passing game will take pressure away from the backs. Watson proved last year that he can be productive. Rudi had been very good prior to last year. And, Perry may be the most talented of the three when healthy. In that "best case" scenario, I think any of the three could give the Bengals what they need in the backfield.
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