June 24, 200818 yr Kenny Anderson, Chris Collinsworth, Isaac Curtis, & Dan Ross. I know thats four. Pretty potent combination.
June 24, 200818 yr I'll take Carson, Chad and TJ... From 2004 through 2007, the Bengals have gone 8-8, 11-5, 8-8, and 7-9...that's 34-30 in 4 years. For argument's sake, from 1985 through 1988 (even though Collinsworth wasn't a huge factor all four years), the Bengals went 7-9, 10-6, 4-11 and 12-4...that's 33-30 in 4 years. Basically the same record... The only difference is the Bengals had a Super Bowl appearance in 1988. One could argue that Carson and company were robbed in their only playoff appearance by the knee injury he suffered...who's to say what Cincy might have accomplished had he stayed healthy? In any case, that's not what I wanted to get into. I'd rather look at the supporting casts... Neither groups had great defenses, but few would argue (I presume) that the Wyche teams had better defenses than what Cincy has fielded the last 4 years. But, here's the real kicker. Look at Cincinnati's rushing offense from 1985 through 1988 and contrast that with 2004 through 2007... Year - Rushing Yards (Rank), Rushing TD (Rank) 1985 - 2183 Yds (12), 20 TD (4) 1986 - 2533 Yds (2), 24 TD (1) 1987 - 2164 Yds (4), 13 TD (12) 1988 - 2710 Yds (1), 27 TD (1) .............................................. 2004 - 1839 Yds (17), 14 TD (13) 2005 - 1910 Yds (11), 15 TD (12) 2006 - 1629 Yds (26), 14 TD (11) 2007 - 1556 Yds (24), 10 TD (20) If you take the current Bengals best year (2005), you have 254 fewer yards and 2 more TD's than the old Bengals worst season with regards to rushing offense. The four year averages? New Bengals = 1734 Yds, 13 TD vs. Old Bengals = 2398 Yds, 21 TD. Give Carson Palmer, Chad and TJ a running game on par with what Boomer and company had, and a slightly to moderately better defense, and those .500 seasons would be division titles and a major factor come playoff time. Sorry, but I'll take the current Bengals...with everything else being equal, the current trio is better and more talented.
June 24, 200818 yr I'll take Carson, Chad and TJ... From 2004 through 2007, the Bengals have gone 8-8, 11-5, 8-8, and 7-9...that's 34-30 in 4 years. For argument's sake, from 1985 through 1988 (even though Collinsworth wasn't a huge factor all four years), the Bengals went 7-9, 10-6, 4-11 and 12-4...that's 33-30 in 4 years. Basically the same record... The only difference is the Bengals had a Super Bowl appearance in 1988. One could argue that Carson and company were robbed in their only playoff appearance by the knee injury he suffered...who's to say what Cincy might have accomplished had he stayed healthy? In any case, that's not what I wanted to get into. I'd rather look at the supporting casts... Neither groups had great defenses, but few would argue (I presume) that the Wyche teams had better defenses than what Cincy has fielded the last 4 years. But, here's the real kicker. Look at Cincinnati's rushing offense from 1985 through 1988 and contrast that with 2004 through 2007... Year - Rushing Yards (Rank), Rushing TD (Rank) 1985 - 2183 Yds (12), 20 TD (4) 1986 - 2533 Yds (2), 24 TD (1) 1987 - 2164 Yds (4), 13 TD (12) 1988 - 2710 Yds (1), 27 TD (1) .............................................. 2004 - 1839 Yds (17), 14 TD (13) 2005 - 1910 Yds (11), 15 TD (12) 2006 - 1629 Yds (26), 14 TD (11) 2007 - 1556 Yds (24), 10 TD (20) If you take the current Bengals best year (2005), you have 254 fewer yards and 2 more TD's than the old Bengals worst season with regards to rushing offense. The four year averages? New Bengals = 1734 Yds, 13 TD vs. Old Bengals = 2398 Yds, 21 TD. Give Carson Palmer, Chad and TJ a running game on par with what Boomer and company had, and a slightly to moderately better defense, and those .500 seasons would be division titles and a major factor come playoff time. Sorry, but I'll take the current Bengals...with everything else being equal, the current trio is better and more talented. I agree with everything stated. The truth behind the numbers offensively is not the QBs, RBs, or WRs. The truth is in the trenches.
June 29, 200818 yr Kind of hard to discount a Super Bowl season if you're a diehard Bengals fan. It is very hard to discount, but...... Collinsworth only had 13 receptions that entire year. --- If going to the Super Bowl is your argument, Tim Mcgee, Eddie Brown and Boomer would have to be the trio.
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