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Why should I care about the war and who should I vote for


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I have been thinking a lot about what I should do this November.

 

On one hand, I believe that if a candidate is wrong on the life issue, then I can't vote for them. It simply goes against my morals.

 

Fortunately, one thing that comes in pairs is pro-lifers and supporters of the free market, which is my second biggest voting issue.

 

It is quite obvious that Ron Paul is, in fact, the best candidate on both of these subjects.

 

And on the other hand, McCain is shaky on both (but better than the Democratic candidates, the ultra-liberal Obama and Hilary). Furthermore, I don't think that Ron Paul has a shot (and who knows if he will even run for election). And I'd prefer McCain than the Dems more than I care about Paul.

 

Now, on the war, I support our troops and have heard many of them say that things are going well over there. I also believe that getting Saddam out of power was the right thing to do, and that what we are trying to accomplish is possible, as some say is not. But I also hear constantly about how we should not be over there.

 

Why should I care about the war in Iraq compared to what is going on at home? If we are going into a recession, and the Dems want to raise taxes, I know how devastating it can be. What should I do?

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Thank God Ron Paul doesn't have a shot.

Would you mind telling me why he would be so bad? I don't agree with everything he stands for, but I don't agree with everything McCain stands for.

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Would you mind telling me why he would be so bad? I don't agree with everything he stands for, but I don't agree with everything McCain stands for.

 

Wasn't it Ron Paul who wants to abolish all Federal Agencies?

 

Wasn't it Ron Paul who wanted to remove the U.S. from the UN?

 

Also wants to get rid of the Federal Reserve?

 

He also said he would like to decriminalize all drug use.

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Wasn't it Ron Paul who wants to abolish all Federal Agencies?

 

Wasn't it Ron Paul who wanted to remove the U.S. from the UN?

 

Also wants to get rid of the Federal Reserve?

 

He also said he would like to decriminalize all drug use.

1. He does not want to abolish all of them, just the unnecessary ones.

2. Probably a bad choice, although the United Nations is a joke.

3. Does not bother me.

4. That would never happen, even if he wanted it to. And he actually makes some strong points in the argument. Either way, no Congress let's that happen.

 

Like I said, I don't agree with everything he says. But if he had a shot, I'd consider it.

 

People are voting for Obama on the grounds that he will bring change. If people want to see real change, this is the guy.

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1. He does not want to abolish all of them, just the unnecessary ones.

2. Probably a bad choice, although the United Nations is a joke.

3. Does not bother me.

4. That would never happen, even if he wanted it to. And he actually makes some strong points in the argument. Either way, no Congress let's that happen.

 

Like I said, I don't agree with everything he says. But if he had a shot, I'd consider it.

 

People are voting for Obama on the grounds that he will bring change. If people want to see real change, this is the guy.

 

What federal agencies does he want to abolish, exactly?

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Ron Paul is the best candidate if you want real change but he is un-electable because of his stance on drugs.

 

He wants rid of Fed. Agencies that have redundancy, Homeland Security and BATF moved to part of the FBI, do way with the Reserve(some strict Constitutionalist believe it is illegal and being used wrong anyway).

 

On the UN part, we basically are the UN and I agree we need out. Most Americans do not want wars and to be the "police" of the world but the UN makes us EXACTLY that, and it is moving to more socialist views everyday......the very thing it was created to defend against.

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I'm not an Obama supporter but if people want to see no change, vote for McCain.

 

While you are entitled to your opinion, in my opinion, your opinion could not be more wrong. Don't drink the Democrat's "third Bush term" Kool-Aid. With just a little research you will find countless issues that McCain and Bush disagree on if you care to exercise your independent thought process in assessing McCain. You may decide not to do so and that's your perogative if you wish, but McCain is so much more moderate and towards the middle than Bush its rather disappointing to read and hear the "third Bush term" rhetoric. I hope that Americans are smarter than to drink up that silliness. McCain will bring a spirit of respect and cooperation to the White House that was not seen in the Bush administration. McCain has proven time and time again that he is not beholden to all that the far right espouses and that he can and will work with moderate Democrats in Congress to find consensus. That in and of itself will be a huge change. Whereas if Obama gets elected, there will no doubt be an attempt to bring a big towards the far left change in policies, but one thing that will not change is the animosity of Democrats and Republicans towards one another. Compromise and a movement away from the extreme partisanship that has pulled our country apart for the last 8 years will continue, and frankly I'm tired of the Karl Roves, Rush Limbaughs, and Al Sharpetons and James Carvilles steering policy debates and decisions. I'm tired of the scorched earth politics that has ruled this country for so long. I'm tired of the total lack of civility that has permeated the atmosphere in Washington and state capitols in this country. On that note, did anyone see the news piece where a 13 yr old kid called out a city council member ( I think it was Detroit) for referring (in a derogatory manner) to another council member as being like Shrek? On one hand it was beautiful that the council member was taken to task for the lack of civility, on the other hand it was truly saddening that a 13 year old could see what an adult could not.

 

I truly hope that enough Americans realize that this November, for the first time in a long time, they are being offered the opportunity to vote for someone that isn't coming from one of the two extremes. I hope the moderate Democrats in this country don't use child like logic and vote for Obama in "retaliation" against Bush. We will have wasted a very good opportunity to bring this country close together than we have been in a long time. A moderate McCain can do that; a far to the left Obama simply cannot.

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I can't tell you who to vote for but you should definetly care about the war because of the lives that have been lost or affected by it and those that will be. You can be against the war or support it either one, but you should definetly care about it. No matter how it plays out from here it will affect the US for decades to come.

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I can't tell you who to vote for but you should definetly care about the war because of the lives that have been lost or affected by it and those that will be. You can be against the war or support it either one, but you should definetly care about it. No matter how it plays out from here it will affect the US for decades to come.

You are right. And I do care about the war. But I struggle to make something that is going on overseas such a strong issue for me when there are things here in the US that need to be taken care of. Which is actually why I will probably vote for McCain, because I believe what Obama and Hilary will do to our economy (and of course abortion) would be atrocious.

 

I guess my basis for this thread was realizing that I probably share as much in common with McCain as I do with Ron Paul, and that the main reason I disregarded Paul at all is because of the war. And then I couldn't think of why the war should be my primary voting issue. It is not that I don't care about the war, but what if it was Obama and Hilary supporting the war....what would I do then?

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