April 15, 200818 yr Author What will happen to gas prices when a nuclear armed Iran repeats its threats to wipe Israel off the face of the earth? Haven't we heard this line before? Oh yeah, I remember now. It was when Iraq was going to blow up a U.S. city with a nuclear bomb they didn't have either.
April 15, 200818 yr Is this the same man saying that we will be in Iraq for 100 years? He was making that statement similar to how we have been in Japan and Germany for 60 years, as well as, South Korea for the past 50. Do you want us to remove troops from those countries?
April 15, 200818 yr Gas goes over 8.00 a gallon, that will shut down half the US. Man that is going to cut into all of those soccer moms driving their SUV's getting their kids to practice.
April 15, 200818 yr Comparing present-day Iraq to early post-Revolution America is quite an insult to the Founding Fathers. Why shouldn't we demand much more of the Iraqi people? Compared to the young United States in the 1780's the Iraqis have had everything handed to them on a silver platter. And what have they done with it? They have sabotaged their oil infrastructure. They have stood idle while IED's are set and detonated. They have butchered their own countrymen and children. The contrasts are striking. The leaders and citizens of the United States in the late 18th century threw off the colonial rule of the most powerful country on earth. Then they went to work building our country. On their own. Peacefully for over eight decades. The Iraqis, on the other hand, after having their oppressive leader overthrown for them, have been the beneficiaries of five years of American largesse. What have they done with it? Very little. No agreement to share oil revenue. Not even simple agreement to live together in reasonable civility. We have patiently held their country together for over five years, preventing its total collapse, and we have been rewarded with this? Why shouldn't we demand much more of the Iraqi people?I forgot, in the John Edwards/Barack Obama parallel world, Al Qaeda is not in Iraq and Iran has not been funding any terrorists. Iraqis have been trying to destroy themselves with no outside help.
April 15, 200818 yr Haven't we heard this line before? Oh yeah, I remember now. It was when Iraq was going to blow up a U.S. city with a nuclear bomb they didn't have either.So your point is that a nuclear armed Iran threatening to wipe Israel from the face of the earth will have no impact on oil prices? Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is just a figurehead for the peace-loving benevolent mullahs who only wish to do their part to fight global warming and live in harmony with their neighbors. The mullahs are probably outraged that President Ahmadinejad insists on funding terrorists and threatening to have Allah destroy Israel in a ball of fire. The mullahs are just too darn nice to fire Ahmadinejad and assume everybody understands, as liberals seem to, that Ahmadinejad is just kidding.
April 15, 200818 yr So your point is that a nuclear armed Iran threatening to wipe Israel from the face of the earth will have no impact on oil prices? Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is just a figurehead for the peace-loving benevolent mullahs who only wish to do their part to fight global warming and live in harmony with their neighbors. The mullahs are probably outraged that President Ahmadinejad insists on funding terrorists and threatening to have Allah destroy Israel in a ball of fire. The mullahs are just too darn nice to fire Ahmadinejad and assume everybody understands, as liberals seem to, that Ahmadinejad is just kidding. Isreal can well defend herself, thanks in part to us, giving weapons, which we should continue to do so. If Isreal, it is my prediction that they could own the middle east.
April 15, 200818 yr So your point is that a nuclear armed Iran threatening to wipe Israel from the face of the earth will have no impact on oil prices? Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is just a figurehead for the peace-loving benevolent mullahs who only wish to do their part to fight global warming and live in harmony with their neighbors. The mullahs are probably outraged that President Ahmadinejad insists on funding terrorists and threatening to have Allah destroy Israel in a ball of fire. The mullahs are just too darn nice to fire Ahmadinejad and assume everybody understands, as liberals seem to, that Ahmadinejad is just kidding. Can the same case be made about our President, remember "you are either against us or for us", so let us take care of all those against us... BOOM! We rule the world, happy, happy, joy joy, now people can live by what we say, do as we say, yes, yes I see it now, we can not/will not accept another way of life! I am for you brother, I better be, because if not I will be called unpatriotic, or unamerican. Now that I have had my rant here is the serious question, "What will it take to get our troops home"? Peace in the middle east, a "stable" Iraq, conquering Iran and Iraq, why stop there let us take out Saudi Arba (original home of Bin Laudin), any Musslim country, what will it take? I thought we won the war in the Iraq conflict.
April 15, 200818 yr Haven't we heard this line before? Oh yeah, I remember now. It was when Iraq was going to blow up a U.S. city with a nuclear bomb they didn't have either. The weapons of mass destruction were airlifted the night before "shock in awe" put in Iran for safe keeping, duh, however, after we take out Iran, we will find out that they are actually in Russia, so, we take them out, but Russia was very sneaky, they sent them to China, and that is where they really are!!! Wait and see if don't see something like this.
April 15, 200818 yr Can the same case be made about our President, remember "you are either against us or for us", so let us take care of all those against us... BOOM! We rule the world, happy, happy, joy joy, now people can live by what we say, do as we say, yes, yes I see it now, we can not/will not accept another way of life! I am for you brother, I better be, because if not I will be called unpatriotic, or unamerican. Now that I have had my rant here is the serious question, "What will it take to get our troops home"? Peace in the middle east, a "stable" Iraq, conquering Iran and Iraq, why stop there let us take out Saudi Arba (original home of Bin Laudin), any Musslim country, what will it take? I thought we won the war in the Iraq conflict. I don't favor bringing the troops home from the Middle East. Once peace and relative stability has been established, we should be able to reduce our presence in the area. However, just as our troops brought stability to Europe during the Cold War, we should be striving to do the same in the Middle East. Talk of withdrawing our troops entirely is extremely foolish, IMO. If the governments of Iraqis, Saudis, and/or Kuwaitis want us to keep troops in the area to restrain Iran, then we should gladly do so. With millions of Muslim fundamentalists worldwide wanting to see our nation collapse, a quick exit from the Middle East is among the stupidest political promises ever made to the American people. I hope and I believe that both Hillary and Obama are too smart to believe their own words on this subject. If not, our troops will return to Iraq in a few years to a much more hostile populace than they will be abandoning.
April 15, 200818 yr I don't favor bringing the troops home from the Middle East. Once peace and relative stability has been established, we should be able to reduce our presence in the area. However, just as our troops brought stability to Europe during the Cold War, we should be striving to do the same in the Middle East. Talk of withdrawing our troops entirely is extremely foolish, IMO. If the governments of Iraqis, Saudis, and/or Kuwaitis want us to keep troops in the area to restrain Iran, then we should gladly do so. With millions of Muslim fundamentalists worldwide wanting to see our nation collapse, a quick exit from the Middle East is among the stupidest political promises ever made to the American people. I hope and I believe that both Hillary and Obama are too smart to believe their own words on this subject. If not, our troops will return to Iraq in a few years to a much more hostile populace than they will be abandoning. Just accouple more questions then I believe that this issue can be put to rest... 1. how long has the fighting between Muslim against Muslim, Christian against Muslim, Jewish against Muslim, taken place? 2. If someon came here in America and invaded, try to change the way which we live(democracy in general, freedom), do you believe that we would fight to the death against that change, do you believe that we would not teach our children to fight against the change, and then their children, their children? 3. Is it not true that the British armed forces tried the occupational route as we are, and how did it end for them?
April 15, 200818 yr Author I forgot, in the John Edwards/Barack Obama parallel world, Al Qaeda is not in Iraq and Iran has not been funding any terrorists. Iraqis have been trying to destroy themselves with no outside help. Excuses excuses. There is always some reason why George's war hasn't worked out and it's always someone else's fault. Tell me again how it came to pass that Al Qaeda set up shop in Iraq? And how is it that Iran is suddenly able to influence and destabilize Iraq? Aside from all of that, maybe a more important question to the prospects of a successful outcome for the U.S. is: How have the Iraqis responded to these adverse forces? Have they banded together in unity of purpose to build a better Iraq for their children? Have they stood up to rid their country of these poisonous influences? NO! These troublemakers were not emphatically thrown out, in many cases they were even embraced. The U.S. has been rewarded with a ghastly display of sectarian barbarism that has only been contained by a combination of al Sadr's self-imposed cease fire, U.S. military brute force, and outright U.S. bribery. And to top it all off, as their country reached the boiling point last summer, Iraq's lawmakers went on vacation for the month of August. I still can't get over your comparing Iraq to the young United States.
April 15, 200818 yr Just accouple more questions then I believe that this issue can be put to rest... 1. how long has the fighting between Muslim against Muslim, Christian against Muslim, Jewish against Muslim, taken place? 2. If someon came here in America and invaded, try to change the way which we live(democracy in general, freedom), do you believe that we would fight to the death against that change, do you believe that we would not teach our children to fight against the change, and then their children, their children? 3. Is it not true that the British armed forces tried the occupational route as we are, and how did it end for them?Let me be clear. I care very little whether radical Muslims blow each other up. In fact, I would favor allowing them to do just that if they could do so without disrupting the free flow of oil from the Middle East. On your second point, I never said that we should forcibly occupy any country in the Middle East over the long term against those governments' wishes. In response to your final question, which has nothing to do with this topic, BTW, in some cases former colonies were better off having been colonized (Australia and Canada, for example), in other cases being held as a colony provided little or no benefit to the colonies. Iraq is not a colony and we are there with the permission of a democratically elected government.
April 15, 200818 yr Excuses excuses. There is always some reason why George's war hasn't worked out and it's always someone else's fault. Tell me again how it came to pass that Al Qaeda set up shop in Iraq? And how is it that Iran is suddenly able to influence and destabilize Iraq? Aside from all of that, maybe a more important question to the prospects of a successful outcome for the U.S. is: How have the Iraqis responded to these adverse forces? Have they banded together in unity of purpose to build a better Iraq for their children? Have they stood up to rid their country of these poisonous influences? NO! These troublemakers were not emphatically thrown out, in many cases they were even embraced. The U.S. has been rewarded with a ghastly display of sectarian barbarism that has only been contained by a combination of al Sadr's self-imposed cease fire, U.S. military brute force, and outright U.S. bribery. And to top it all off, as their country reached the boiling point last summer, Iraq's lawmakers went on vacation for the month of August. I still can't get over your comparing Iraq to the young United States. Ah yes, the theory that peaceful Muslims suddenly resigned their jobs as burger flippers to spontaneously form Al Qaeda cells. I know that it is hard to believe, but once the surge took hold average Iraqis did begin cooperating with US and Iraqi forces and they did begin providing intelligence that has led to the capture and death of many terrorists who were hiding among them. Of course, if liberals get their wish, we will quickly surrender the goodwill that our troops have built and leave those who cooperated to the mercy of the terrorist thugs who have not yet been flushed out and killed. Don't worry, says Senator Obama, if Al Qaeda returns to Iraq (they have not left) we can always just send the troops back in and pick up right where they left off.
April 16, 200818 yr Iran will NEVER possess a nuclear weapon and Israel is not going anywhere. If it's not solved diplomatically with the next prez, as soon as Iran gets close to making a nuke that facility will be bombed by about ten B-2's. I don't think we will have an "Iraq" in Iran, but I could see some weekend carpet bombing. All depends on the next president, Bush has made it clear he has no intentions of trying to talk to them, so the soap opera will continue.
April 16, 200818 yr Iran will NEVER possess a nuclear weapon and Israel is not going anywhere. If it's not solved diplomatically with the next prez, as soon as Iran gets close to making a nuke that facility will be bombed by about ten B-2's. I don't think we will have an "Iraq" in Iran, but I could see some weekend carpet bombing. All depends on the next president, Bush has made it clear he has no intentions of trying to talk to them, so the soap opera will continue. Iran warns it will 'wipe out' Israel if attacked RIA Novosti 15/04/2008 16:56 TEHRAN, April 15 (RIA Novosti) - A senior Iranian commander warned on Tuesday that his military will wipe Israel off the world map if the Zionists attack the Islamic Republic. "We must defend our state borders, and should Israel take any hostile action, we are ready to eliminate Israel from the world scene," Deputy Commander-in-Chief Mohammad Reza Ashtiani said. He said that the Iranian army is on constant alert due to the presence of "foreign forces" in the region. "It is ready to decisively repel any attack," he said. Ashtiani's comments echo President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's infamous 2005 "World Without Zionism" speech, in which he railed against the Israelis' occupation of Jerusalem. Iran's defense minister said last Monday the world needs a missile shield to protect against threats from Israel and the United States. Mostafa Mohammad Najjar said U.S. claims that the European missile shield would defend against Iran's missiles were nothing but a sham. He said Tehran was open to cooperation with every country except Israel, which Iran does not recognize, to ensure stability and security in the Middle East. 3 164-machine sets from 2nd series of 3,000 centrifuges in motion - source IRNA - Islamic Republic News Agency Tehran, April 11, IRNA Iran-Nuclear-Official Three 164-machine cascades for a total of 3,000 second series centrifuges are operating in Natanz, said an informed official on Friday. The official told IRNA on condition of anonymity that the centrifuges are the P1 generation devices. Earlier reports said 18 164-machine arrays of 3,000 P1 generation centrifuges are busy doing the uranium enrichment work in Natanz. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told the National Nuclear Technology Festival on Tuesday that operations have started for installation of 6,000 P1 generation centrifuges. He said the country has produced new generation of centrifuges that will be capable of working five times the P1 generation ones and research work on the project will come to an end by the next two to three months.
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