Because, almost universally, artists and concert-goers overwhelmingly prefer intimate settings. Despite Chesney's lack of talent, he at least has good sense enough to do something cool for his fans rather than acting in the interest of his pocketbook.

 

 

Not that I'm surprised, but that is a bit harsh. I realize that you do not like him, but he does have some talent. For the record I've been to 3 Chesney shows and each one was a blast.

Not that I'm surprised, but that is a bit harsh. I realize that you do not like him, but he does have some talent. For the record I've been to 3 Chesney shows and each one was a blast.

 

Does he even write his own songs? Not most of them, apparently. He's typical establishment Nashville — not much different than your average cover band at the local bar, singing familiar-sounding songs everybody knows. Sure, he's got some talent. But it is not commensurate with the popularity he enjoys (like most of the low-rent schlock put out by Music Row).

Does he even write his own songs? Not most of them, apparently. He's typical establishment Nashville — not much different than your average cover band at the local bar, singing familiar-sounding songs everybody knows. Sure, he's got some talent. But it is not commensurate with the popularity he enjoys (like most of the low-rent schlock put out by Music Row).

 

I'm not going to lie, I don't even know what half of that means or is relevant to....

 

But I know that I'll listen to a few Kenny Chesney songs and have a blast at his concerts...:ylsuper:

Jeremy Bentham would say that happiness is quantitative not qualitative, and therefore Kenny Chesney is talented. I would agree though with JS Mill instead, "better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied"

 

Sorry. I have been wanting you use something from my PHI 130 Ethics class for a while now

Does he even write his own songs? Not most of them, apparently. He's typical establishment Nashville — not much different than your average cover band at the local bar, singing familiar-sounding songs everybody knows. Sure, he's got some talent. But it is not commensurate with the popularity he enjoys (like most of the low-rent schlock put out by Music Row).

 

I realize that we will have to agree to disagree. However, he has written some of his hit songs such as "I go back" and "Beer in Mexico" among others, and he has co-written several others.

 

I understand that songwritting is a talent, however, the making of a song also requires talent in the instrumentals and vocals. If songwritting were the only issue than guys like Thom Shepherd would release their own songs as hits instead of writting them for others. (I actually enjoy Thom Shepherd's preformaces of his songs) Pavarotti didn't write the songs he sang either, but I wouldn't say that he is untalented.

 

To me what your saying would be the same as saying that an actor has no talent if he did not write the screenplay.

Does he even write his own songs? Not most of them, apparently. He's typical establishment Nashville — not much different than your average cover band at the local bar, singing familiar-sounding songs everybody knows. Sure, he's got some talent. But it is not commensurate with the popularity he enjoys (like most of the low-rent schlock put out by Music Row).

 

So, since you are so militant about it. Please list The Who's albums, and who wrote the songs. That after all, is you avatar. The Band really didn't write many of them did they?

It is okay. We can all look up The Who's albums. We know that you love to posture but, you really don't have that good of musical taste. The thing is, if someone likes the song, and they like how it makes them feel--who are you to give them a hard time? It's okay, we all like you so we let you carry on, but you should actually listen to some lyrics before you dismiss everyone. It doesn't matter who wrote them--how many have you written?

The thing is, if someone likes the song, and they like how it makes them feel--who are you to give them a hard time?

A lot of average Roman citizens LOVED the Gladiators. Therefore, it must have been a good thing, right? I can't believe I am referring to my earlier post, but happiness is NOT qualitative. There is an abiding standard of something that is "good" other than just numbers of people who like it.

A lot of average Roman citizens LOVED the Gladiators. Therefore, it must have been a good thing, right? I can't believe I am referring to my earlier post, but happiness is NOT qualitative. There is an abiding standard of something that is "good" other than just numbers of people who like it.

 

So since a large percentage of the population, you can look up the numbers if you want. Really enjoys Kenny's tales about life and love that he may or may not have written but that he had the good sense to record then actually only the people that don't like his songs have any signifigance here--by your standards? Correct? Because just because a lot of people like him he must be horrid--right? You know what--look at the numbers, see what the everyman thinks.........You'll lose, and BTW I don't think Kenny will kill anyone in the coliseum, he ain't a gladiator.....Nice try though. I don't think country will kill anyone. Really bad analogy.

So, since you are so militant about it. Please list The Who's albums, and who wrote the songs. That after all, is you avatar. The Band really didn't write many of them did they?

 

Pete Townshend wrote probably 90 percent of The Who's material. John Entwistle comes in with about another 5 percent. The rest is well-selected covers, such as Eddy Cochran's "Summertime Blues." Not sure what you're getting at with this.

 

It is okay. We can all look up The Who's albums. We know that you love to posture but, you really don't have that good of musical taste. The thing is, if someone likes the song, and they like how it makes them feel--who are you to give them a hard time? It's okay, we all like you so we let you carry on, but you should actually listen to some lyrics before you dismiss everyone. It doesn't matter who wrote them--how many have you written?

 

The fact of the matter is musical taste is subjective. I do feel secure, however, in that you can find better than 85 percent of most consensus all-time top-100 best album lists in my personal collection. So I must be on to something.

 

I am a big-time music fan with a pretty extensive collection, and on top of that I'm a voracious student of popular music history. So while you may not agree with my opinion, at least respect the fact that it is learned. Point being, you probably don't really know a whole lot about the music I listen to because you haven't bothered to look for it. However, unless you're listening to obscure radio stations even I've not heard of, odds are pretty good I know yours all to well, and feel like I'm on pretty darned solid bedrock to comment on it.

 

People can like who they want; as long as they enjoy it is all that really matters. And that's great. If there weren't "terrible" artists out there for me to rail on, it would be a pretty boring world for me. And let's be honest -- I do play up the "music snob" thing quite a bit (ask BF if you don't believe me).

 

But it is important for me to point out that there is more out there than what you will find on commercial radio, and I wouldn't be a very good music aficianado if I didn't try to steer people in the right direction. I get a great reward out of hipping someone to something they might not have otherwise discovered, like the 20 or so people in NoKy who are V-Roys fans who were regular listeners of Puff Daddy (or whatever he's calling himself) at the time.

 

I do know a number of Chesney's songs. Heck, a buddy of mine tried a whole summer to snow me into his stuff by playing his CDs every time we went boating. Didn't work; I spotted the fraud.

 

And it may not matter to you who wrote the songs, but it does to me. Sure, there are lots of performers who don't write their own material, but like a Frank Sinatra or an Aretha Franklin, the good ones who can't write bring something else to the table. Chesney, however, I can't distinguish him from Alan Jackson, Garth Brooks, Jimmy Joe Cowboy Hat In The Video, or whatever the hell else Nashville has squeezed out in the last month or two of sound-alike stuff. The lack of originality and overall homogenism amongst the Nashville starmaker-machinery (with all apologies to Joni Mitchell) is the biggest crime, IMO.

 

And for the record, I probably have enough poetry -- most of it written with accompanying music in my head -- to fill up about three volumes. Unfortunately, my parents never got me a guitar when I was a kid.

So since a large percentage of the population, you can look up the numbers if you want. Really enjoys Kenny's tales about life and love that he may or may not have written but that he had the good sense to record then actually only the people that don't like his songs have any signifigance here--by your standards? Correct? Because just because a lot of people like him he must be horrid--right? You know what--look at the numbers, see what the everyman thinks.........You'll loose, and BTW I don't think Kenny will kill anyone in the colesium, he ain't a gladiator.....Nice try though. I don't think country will kill anyone. Really bad analogy.

 

Just because a lot of people like him doesn't mean yea or nay on whether he's any good or not, because the mob misses the boat at least as often as it gets it right, if not more often. How many albums have Britney Spears and The Backstreet Boys sold? Lots of 'em. What kind of indicator is album sales again as to what kind of quality music is being put out? Ehhh ...

 

My whole bone is that if all those Chesney fans out there took the time to discover some real country music, with real songs about life and love (and not stuff churned out by the 10 or so songwriters in Nashville who write 95 percent of the stuff that tops the country charts), they'd really wonder what the hell took them so long to see the light.

So since a large percentage of the population, you can look up the numbers if you want. Really enjoys Kenny's tales about life and love that he may or may not have written but that he had the good sense to record then actually only the people that don't like his songs have any signifigance here--by your standards? Correct? Because just because a lot of people like him he must be horrid--right? You know what--look at the numbers, see what the everyman thinks.........You'll lose, and BTW I don't think Kenny will kill anyone in the coliseum, he ain't a gladiator.....Nice try though. I don't think country will kill anyone. Really bad analogy.

 

1. Just because everyone likes him doesn't make him bad or good.

2. The Gladiators example was pointing to the fact that just because it is well-liked does not it a good thing. I am not saying that Kenny Chesney is going to kill anyone, and I have nothing against country music. This isn't a new concept- Jeremy Bentham provided your argument and John Stuart Mills criticized it.

3. People are entitled to listen to whatever music they want- I listen to some stuff that I wouldn't consider to be really great music at all. But I enjoy it, so I listen to it. But the standard of greater music involves a few things- namely doing something original, as well as being personally invested- that I don't think Kenny Chesney has.

1. Just because everyone likes him doesn't make him bad or good.

2. The Gladiators example was pointing to the fact that just because it is well-liked does not it a good thing. I am not saying that Kenny Chesney is going to kill anyone, and I have nothing against country music. This isn't a new concept- Jeremy Bentham provided your argument and John Stuart Mills criticized it.

3. People are entitled to listen to whatever music they want- I listen to some stuff that I wouldn't consider to be really great music at all. But I enjoy it, so I listen to it. But the standard of greater music involves a few things- namely doing something original, as well as being personally invested- that I don't think Kenny Chesney has.

 

Well done, grasshopper. :thumb:

Just because a lot of people like him doesn't mean yea or nay on whether he's any good or not, because the mob misses the boat at least as often as it gets it right, if not more often. How many albums have Britney Spears and The Backstreet Boys sold? Lots of 'em. What kind of indicator is album sales again as to what kind of quality music is being put out? Ehhh ...

 

My whole bone is that if all those Chesney fans out there took the time to discover some real country music, with real songs about life and love (and not stuff churned out by the 10 or so songwriters in Nashville who write 95 percent of the stuff that tops the country charts), they'd really wonder what the hell took them so long to see the light.

 

 

So, back to my original question. You have chosen The Who to be your avatar and defacto mouthpiece. How many records did the band write? Because, after all that is what you are stringing up Kenny, Britney, The N'Synch 98 Degree Backstreet Boys for. How many did they write, sing and produce on their own? It's okay, you can tell us--we already know.

So, back to my original question. You have chosen The Who to be your avatar and defacto mouthpiece. How many records did the band write? Because, after all that is what you are stringing up Kenny, Britney, The N'Synch 98 Degree Backstreet Boys for. How many did they write, sing and produce on their own? It's okay, you can tell us--we already know.

Pete Townshend and John Entwistle wrote nearly all of their songs. Moon and Daltrey contributed as well.

All here

 

Of course the Who sung the songs? And they didn't produce all of it but what band does?