In Stephen King's book The Stand, the forces of good were headquarted in Colorado Springs (home of Focus on the Family) and the forces of evil had their HQ in Las Vegas.

 

You know, I didn't even think of the Stand when I posted yet it seems remarkably similar.

 

That's my favorite book of all time btw.

Considering the "liberal" states include California and the West Coast, New York and most of New England, and possibly the majority of the Great Lakes States; I think the Economies would be fine. California alone has one of the top 20 economies in the world by itself.

 

All may not be well in the California economy...................http://www.ebudget.ca.gov/BudgetSummary/GOV/1249556.html

We joke about it and often argue about it, but seriously, when I look at that map of red and blue states and consider how each state is thought of, not just politically but socially, economically, and idealistically, I am very happy to be a part of the red states. I identify with farmers from Kansas and Iowa, with ranchers and oil men in Texas, factory workers in Ohio, and the football lovin', Bible thumpin', people of the South. My kind of folks. I wish Wisconsin, Michigan, and Illinois would join up. I think they're my kind of folks too. California and New England, you can have 'em.

We joke about it and often argue about it, but seriously, when I look at that map of red and blue states and consider how each state is thought of, not just politically but socially, economically, and idealistically, I am very happy to be a part of the red states. I identify with farmers from Kansas and Iowa, with ranchers and oil men in Texas, factory workers in Ohio, and the football lovin', Bible thumpin', people of the South. My kind of folks. I wish Wisconsin, Michigan, and Illinois would join up. I think they're my kind of folks too. California and New England, you can have 'em.

 

I'm not calling you out specifically, I've seen a lot of people on both sides think this way, but this mindset really bugs me.

 

Bible thumpin' people of the south annoy me, but I wouldn't want them to go into exile. There's pleny of rude New Yorkers and LA idiots who I'd want to punch in the face, but they're all part of what makes this country great. Just because we don't get along with people from other areas, or just because we think differently, it doesn't mean we can't work together or that each of us aren't important for this country.

 

I'm not proud of living in a red state. I'm proud of living in Kentucky, regardless of color.

I didn't think people in NY were any more rude than people around here. Boston, yes.

I'm not calling you out specifically, I've seen a lot of people on both sides think this way, but this mindset really bugs me.

 

 

That's not calling me out. As I said, it's a personal preference and these are my kind of people and what I identify with.

I didn't think people in NY were any more rude than people around here. Boston, yes.

 

 

I think a lot of it is rural vs. urban. Although there are a lot of large cities, I tend to think of the Midwest and the South as rural areas. Again, my kind of folks.

I think a lot of it is rural vs. urban. Although there are a lot of large cities, I tend to think of the Midwest and the South as rural areas. Again, my kind of folks.

I think you are buying way too much into stereotypes. But you are entitled to your own beliefs. It is unfortunate that my parents wouldn't be part of your kind of folks. I am probably borderline.

 

It is also too bad that people in states such as Maine aren't in your group of folks. I don't think that Maine is much different than the Southern states you refer to at all- no major metropolitan areas, most rural areas, live off land (sort of- farming vs. fishing), and is usually a red state.

The economic trade imbalance with the conservative states (you guys get cotton, we get everything else) would keep the liberal ship afloat. We'll have LOWER taxes because we'll have more money and businesses (funny that the liberal country is a supply-side paradise, huh) and because we won't be cramming money down the economic sinkholes of places like West Virginia and Mississippi.

We are referring to different things. I was imagine splitting the country up by geography, split down the middle one way or the other. If we did it your way, red states and blue states, I agree the liberal country would have a huge advantage simply because of their terrain. I disagree that they would do better, huge taxes would gradually ruin the economy- period.

 

If it was split geographically, then what I said in post #20 still holds true.

I think you are buying way too much into stereotypes. But you are entitled to your own beliefs. It is unfortunate that my parents wouldn't be part of your kind of folks. I am probably borderline.

 

It is also too bad that people in states such as Maine aren't in your group of folks. I don't think that Maine is much different than the Southern states you refer to at all- no major metropolitan areas, most rural areas, live off land (sort of- farming vs. fishing), and is usually a red state.

 

 

Hey, if you, your parents, or me aren't best buddies that doesn't make any of us bad people. I'm just saying the stereotypical red state resident is my favorite kind of folk and what I'm most comfortable around. We share a lot of the same beliefs and values as evidenced by our voting record.

Hey, if you, your parents, or me aren't best buddies that doesn't make any of us bad people. I'm just saying the stereotypical red state resident is my favorite kind of folk and what I'm most comfortable around. We share a lot of the same beliefs and values as evidenced by our voting record.

OK then. I have read a lot of your posts and my parents beliefs and values (to the best of my knowledge about you) mirror your beliefs and values to a T. I'm not sure why you choose to embolden the stereotype, but do as you please.

I thought the original post said to seperate by conservative and liberal people not states. If that is the case, I will gladly side with the conservatives because that is largely the group that actually produces products versus the more liberal commune that would likely form.

 

Just my thoughts.

OK then. I have read a lot of your posts and my parents beliefs and values (to the best of my knowledge about you) mirror your beliefs and values to a T.

 

Well, then, they sound like fine folks. Would they consider moving?

Well, then, they sound like fine folks. Would they consider moving?

 

Well they live in Kentucky. They were born and raised in blue states though (and I was for part of my childhood as well).

I think you are buying way too much into stereotypes. But you are entitled to your own beliefs. It is unfortunate that my parents wouldn't be part of your kind of folks. I am probably borderline.

 

It is also too bad that people in states such as Maine aren't in your group of folks. I don't think that Maine is much different than the Southern states you refer to at all- no major metropolitan areas, most rural areas, live off land (sort of- farming vs. fishing), and is usually a red state.

Historically, Kentucky is usually a blue state.