I've never liked the hand-holding (only witnessed this in Fla.) or the hand shaking. Guess I'm just not that sociable.

I love to hold hands with my wife and daughter when we say The Our Father at Mass, it is indeed very special to me, that we unite to say this pray to Our Father, as a Family. It is something that I really miss doing at the present time, as she is away at College. I also dislike (I could use a stronger word) when The Blessed Sacrament is present and people either stand or sit instead of kneeling.

" Ad Deum qui laetificate juvemtutem meam" . " I will go to the alter of God the God who gives joy to my youth " . I can still recite the latin prayers that we had to learn in order to serve at Sacred Heart in Bellevue in the '50s an early '60s . Oh the days of riding my bike to serve 6:00am Mass especially in winter .

 

http://www.stmichaels.org/stmichaels/mass1.html

I've never liked the words "traditional mass." I prefer "Tridentine Mass" as a reference to its mandate by the Council of Trent. In Louisville, St. Martin of Tours is the place to go for this... and what do you know, that's where I go. I grew up in a church that did only the novus ordo mass, as was the mandate following Vatican II. As I've grown older, I've found I get more out of going to the Tridentine Mass.

 

The novus ordo, I feel, is too much about the entire congregation following along rather than reflecting and praying. During the Tridentine Mass, there is opportunity for a person to read along in the missal and reflect on the individual parts of the mass and the scripture while listening to the beauty of a sung mass and the chant responses done by the choir. There is a great deal of beauty in the Tridentine Mass.

 

Sorry about that; I couldn't recall the official name for the life of me.

Sorry about that; I couldn't recall the official name for the life of me.

 

It has so many names that it's hard to keep track. The one that the Vatican uses at the moment is to refer to the novus ordo mass as the Ordinary Form Mass and the Tridentine as the Extraordinary Form. A rose by any other name, eh?

To be honest with you, I think the Latin mass is just stodgy and pretentious. I think the mass should be made accessible to the people who (as a single body) form the church.

 

Of course, I didn't grow up with the Tridentene tradition.

To be honest with you, I think the Latin mass is just stodgy and pretentious. I think the mass should be made accessible to the people who (as a single body) form the church.

 

Of course, I didn't grow up with the Tridentene tradition.

 

I've only experienced it a handful of times. Couple times on Holy Thursday/Good Friday when our priest was feeling adventurous. Couple of other times with my grandma when they would do it for special Masses at St. Mary's and the old St. Michael's in Madison, Ind.

 

I suppose it would be difficult to handle it on a regular basis. I generally think of it as something that only goes down on special occasions.

I've only experienced it a handful of times. Couple times on Holy Thursday/Good Friday when our priest was feeling adventurous. Couple of other times with my grandma when they would do it for special Masses at St. Mary's and the old St. Michael's in Madison, Ind.

 

I suppose it would be difficult to handle it on a regular basis. I generally think of it as something that only goes down on special occasions.

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Wasn't difficult when it was the only version we had before Vatican II . Latin is fascinating language . Took two years of it in High school .

To be honest with you, I think the Latin mass is just stodgy and pretentious. I think the mass should be made accessible to the people who (as a single body) form the church.

 

How delightfully Protestant of you. I agree that I like the Mass in English. But I also wish that, in other ways, the novus ordo more closely resembled the Tridentine, both in rite and reverence.

 

Here is a video of a high solemn mass from Easter Sunday in 1941. I post this because it has a running commentary and translation by the late Bishop Fulton Sheen (whose books and TV show I love, by the way).

 

I post this because it has a running commentary and translation by the late Bishop Fulton Sheen (whose books and TV show I love, by the way).

I think that points out the problem. The real thing wouldn't have a running commentary. Everyone but the priest (and PepRock) would be lost.

How delightfully Protestant of you.

This reminds me of something that happened when my oldest brother was little. He came home from grade school one day and said, "Mommy, are we Catholic...or public?" :lol:

Here is a video of a high solemn mass from Easter Sunday in 1941.

Just finished watching this. All I can say is...wow! :eek: That was amazing! I've never seen anything like it. Man, now I'm filled with a million questions.

 

That really was a moving experience. At times it was almost frightening in intensity. There were a lot of things I'd never seen before in a mass, and some things I haven't seen since I was little.

 

Particularly interesting was the way the movements of the celebrants were so meticulously choreographed. It was almost like a ballet. And there were several times when the priest or others would do ritualistic movements that I'd never seen done in a mass. Also, the hoods worn at certain points in the mass was something I wasn't familiar with.

 

Another thing I found interesting was the way the congregation knelt at the alter rail for communion. Haven't seen that since I was little. But I didn't understand the way they had their hands under that cloth. What was the significance of that?

 

Thanks for posting that video Getslow. That was quite an eye-opening experience for a "dunce-cap Catholic." :thumb:

To be honest with you, I think the Latin mass is just stodgy and pretentious. I think the mass should be made accessible to the people who (as a single body) form the church.

 

Of course, I didn't grow up with the Tridentene tradition.

 

I personally find it to be a much more reverent celebration of the Lord's Sacrifice. And when it was only done in Latin it was not just one congregation that was one body and wholly understanding of it, it was all of the church all over the world. You could go to mass in France, Germany or Italy and still know what was going on because it was in Latin, just like here.

 

 

I didn't grow up with the Tridentine mass either. In fact PepRock didn't start doing much in the way of Latin in church until he was 15 and never attended a Tridentine Rite mass until he was 21.

I didn't grow up with the Tridentine mass either. In fact PepRock didn't start doing much in the way of Latin in church until he was 15 and never attended a Tridentine Rite mass until he was 21.

At what age did PepROck start referring to himself in the third person?

At what age did PepROck start referring to himself in the third person?

 

 

He has been doing that since at least his mid-teens.