February 8, 200818 yr If I were betting, just about every single major public-funded building project over the last, say, 50 years or so in NoKy and L'ville got a significant portion of that project paid for by coal severance tax funds. To hear folks in NoKy and L'ville whine they aren't getting their fair share when both areas are thriving economically is kind of sad, really. Especially when a good chunk of Eastern Ky still gets its tap water from the same creeks where you see straight pipes.
February 8, 200818 yr Another conveniently overlooked aspect of NoKy and L'ville is the fact that they are entertainment, tourist and shopping destinations, and those areas are realizing the benefit through local sales taxes of those out-of-town visitors who keep those turnstiles spinning. There are a few things rigging the game in your favor, which also makes the "poor, pitiful me" routine sound kind of hollow.
February 8, 200818 yr Another conveniently overlooked aspect of NoKy and L'ville is the fact that they are entertainment, tourist and shopping destinations, and those areas are realizing the benefit through local sales taxes of those out-of-town visitors who keep those turnstiles spinning. There are a few things rigging the game in your favor, which also makes the "poor, pitiful me" routine sound kind of hollow. Look, I haven't complained. We are still able to accomplish what we want. We (Louisville) can be pretty proud of the projects we've accomplished without state support.
February 8, 200818 yr Look, I haven't complained. We are still able to accomplish what we want. We (Louisville) can be pretty proud of the projects we've accomplished without state support. Except for when we actually need state support and get "you'll need toll booths" to pay for it. That leaves me a bit irked.
February 8, 200818 yr Except for when we actually need state support and get "you'll need toll booths" to pay for it. That leaves me a bit irked. Well, they only did take down the last toll booths on the parkways in Ky in the last decade. I agree that toll booths on the bridge(s) is not a pleasant prospect, but if it's needed badly enough, you take it however you can get it. You can always come up with a local tax of some sort to help out with it. Are there any bridges in NYC that aren't toll?
February 8, 200818 yr Author Another conveniently overlooked aspect of NoKy and L'ville is the fact that they are entertainment, tourist and shopping destinations, and those areas are realizing the benefit through local sales taxes of those out-of-town visitors who keep those turnstiles spinning. There are a few things rigging the game in your favor, which also makes the "poor, pitiful me" routine sound kind of hollow. Gee, do you think those things just happened, or do you think the good people of NKy worked there butts off to make it happen, without I might add much help from the state or federal government. Most of the things rigging the game in our favor (that my guess you are talking about) really haven't been around all that long! BTW those local tax dollars are surely benefiting Eastern Kentucky too.
February 8, 200818 yr Gee, do you think those things just happened, or do you think the good people of NKy worked there butts off to make it happen, without I might add much help from the state or federal government. Most of the things rigging the game in our favor (that my guess you are talking about) really haven't been around all that long! BTW those local tax dollars are surely benefiting Eastern Kentucky too. Please. Northern Kentucky has benefited from being a transportation crossroads for 200 years. Same with Louisville, same with Lex. I wouldn't necessarily owe that to anything but good forethought (and perhaps some luck) on the part of the city fathers in terms of site selection.
February 8, 200818 yr Please. Northern Kentucky has benefited from being a transportation crossroads for 200 years. Same with Louisville, same with Lex. I wouldn't necessarily owe that to anything but good forethought (and perhaps some luck) on the part of the city fathers in terms of site selection. I have a solution...someone make EKY into the next Smokey Mountains Resort area! :dancingpa
February 8, 200818 yr I have a solution...someone make EKY into the next Smokey Mountains Resort area! :dancingpa I hate to say it, but the area is far better suited to something like this (which Harry Caudill first posed back in the '60s) than it is for people to try and live there.
February 8, 200818 yr Author Please. Northern Kentucky has benefited from being a transportation crossroads for 200 years. Same with Louisville, same with Lex. I wouldn't necessarily owe that to anything but good forethought (and perhaps some luck) on the part of the city fathers in terms of site selection. Gee, and I thought that old Daniel Boone forged his way into Kentucky through a gap in the Mountains through Eastern Kentucky. Guess it only works in NKy, that is, being a crossroad for over 200 years. My guess is maybe we did more with ours, than what they did with theirs!
February 8, 200818 yr Some observations: 1) The growth in Louisville and the growth in NKY are two totally different animals. NKY has benefitted, in part, from their proximity to Cincinnati. Once spurred, they have generated more money and funded many of their own projects. However, the "destination market" that NKY benefits from is Cincinnati, in terms of things like convention business. In the beginning hotels, et al, were built to capitalize on the overflow from the Cincinnati market. Over time, with revenue generated from that, they've been able to build themselves up, and create their own niche. In Louisville, it began with the state funded KFEC. Then the KICC, then the expansion and renovations of each. But Louisville did not start with the advantage of having a Cincinnati across the river. The created their niche. NOT A KNOCK ON NKY. Just pointing out that the situations are different. Now, Louisville definitely has great independent sources of revenue. 2) Why hasn't something been done to develop EKY more as a tourist market? Do the residents not want that area to become a tourist market? I can understand that. But, the reality is, if you want the jobs, and you want the money, then some pain will occur. Some sacrifices will be made. In terms of manufacturing, what can be done to spur that growth? I know relatively little about the politics of EKY. Enlighten me.
February 8, 200818 yr Gee, and I thought that old Daniel Boone forged his way into Kentucky through a gap in the Mountains through Eastern Kentucky. Guess it only works in NKy, that is, being a crossroad for over 200 years. My guess is maybe we did more with ours, than what they did with theirs! Actually, Middlesboro just wasn't lucky enough to have I-75 go through there instead of 25 miles to the west.
February 8, 200818 yr NKY didn't support Beshear in the election. This is your price for not doing so.He won Kenton and Campbell Counties by surprising margins, and almost won Boone County...which is quite a feat in itself. So, the "lack of support" theory doesn't hold up.
February 8, 200818 yr He won Kenton and Campbell Counties by surprising margins, and almost won Boone County...which is quite a feat in itself. So, the "lack of support" theory doesn't hold up. Too late...post #16.
February 8, 200818 yr There is a large contingent that would push for something association with a certain HS football team with a bird mascot. I think I said in another thread that this new state thing would do wonders for the public/private issue.
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