January 28, 200818 yr Yes there is. You cant move while taking the ball out of bounds unless its after a made basket. If you do its a walk. When you have a spot throw in, you have a box 3 feet wide that you have to stay within. There is no limit to how back backwards you can go - you just have to stay within the 3 foot box with one foot in or over the box. You can jump. You can shuffle your feet. You can move to the side. You can go back to the wall. As long as you're within the box, its not a violation. And if you do commit a violation, it is not a walk. A walk requires a player to have control. Control cannot be established until the ball is inbounds, thus, you cannot travel when out of bounds. So, when Patrick Sparks had happy feet taking the ball out against UL a few years ago and Packer screamed "traveling" he was proving that just because your only job is to watch basketball, you do not actually have to KNOW the rules to comment on it for your paycheck.
January 28, 200818 yr When you have a spot throw in, you have a box 3 feet wide that you have to stay within. There is no limit to how back backwards you can go - you just have to stay within the 3 foot box with one foot in or over the box. You can jump. You can shuffle your feet. You can move to the side. You can go back to the wall. As long as you're within the box, its not a violation. And if you do commit a violation, it is not a walk. A walk requires a player to have control. Control cannot be established until the ball is inbounds, thus, you cannot travel when out of bounds. So, when Patrick Sparks had happy feet taking the ball out against UL a few years ago and Packer screamed "traveling" he was proving that just because your only job is to watch basketball, you do not actually have to KNOW the rules to comment on it for your paycheck. That's correct. A player could shuffle his feet, jump, take two steps back, and/or lunge sideways (as long as one foot stays over the designated spot) to make the pass....all within 5 seconds, of course.
January 28, 200818 yr What if a play throws a lob and two players dunk it in at the same time? I've seen it where it was so close you couldnt tell who did what except who passed it. In this situation I know that the basket only counts for two pts but two players put the ball in at the same time. IMO 1 basket =1 assist but there are instances where if I was keeping stats may just give two players an assist. The basket is credited to one player and there is one assist...always.
January 28, 200818 yr I do not think that is possible in basketball. On a related note, do you get an assist if you pass someone the ball, they miss but get fouled and go to the line and make both free throws?
January 28, 200818 yr I do not think that is possible in basketball. On a related note, do you get an assist if you pass someone the ball, they miss but get fouled and go to the line and make both free throws? I don't think so. I think you can only get an assist on a FG attempt.
January 28, 200818 yr The basket is credited to one player and there is one assist...always. Are you saying there's always on assist on a made basket?
January 28, 200818 yr When you have a spot throw in, you have a box 3 feet wide that you have to stay within. There is no limit to how back backwards you can go - you just have to stay within the 3 foot box with one foot in or over the box. You can jump. You can shuffle your feet. You can move to the side. You can go back to the wall. As long as you're within the box, its not a violation. And I believe the inbounder is even permitted to step on the out-of-bounds line when he throws the ball in, since he is still considered as being out of bounds and part of his starting 3 foot box. (I think).
January 28, 200818 yr And I believe the inbounder is even permitted to step on the out-of-bounds line when he throws the ball in, since he is still considered as being out of bounds and part of his starting 3 foot box. (I think). Correct. Its not a violation until you touch in bounds before releasing the ball.
January 29, 200818 yr Are you saying there's always on assist on a made basket? No. An offensive rebound which leads to a FG, a drive and FG by a player who was in no way helped by the pass he received, a drive and FG in which there was no pass at all, etc... A pass which leads to FG (not two FT attempts--whether made or not) is an assist. Now, you can be as liberal as you want with that definition. I believe the NBA is very easy on that rule (they pretty much grant an assist to the person who passed the ball to the scorer as long as they keep a continuous motion toward the basket...i.e. outlet pass to the point guard on the wing, point guard passes ahead to another player at half court, that player drives directly to the basket and scores...the point guard gets an assist). HS and college, I guess it depends on who's doing your stats. I've always thought that if the pass "helped" make the play possible, then you should be granted an assist but I don't believe there is any rule as far as how many dribbles can be taken or anything like that, so, it's somewhat open to interpretation.
January 29, 200818 yr No. An offensive rebound which leads to a FG, a drive and FG by a player who was in no way helped by the pass he received, a drive and FG in which there was no pass at all, etc... A pass which leads to FG (not two FT attempts--whether made or not) is an assist. Now, you can be as liberal as you want with that definition. I believe the NBA is very easy on that rule (they pretty much grant an assist to the person who passed the ball to the scorer as long as they keep a continuous motion toward the basket...i.e. outlet pass to the point guard on the wing, point guard passes ahead to another player at half court, that player drives directly to the basket and scores...the point guard gets an assist). HS and college, I guess it depends on who's doing your stats. I've always thought that if the pass "helped" make the play possible, then you should be granted an assist but I don't believe there is any rule as far as how many dribbles can be taken or anything like that, so, it's somewhat open to interpretation. You are correct on the subjective nature of an assist. We could both be watching and one of us grant an assist while the other says its not an assist.
January 29, 200818 yr To me an assist is making a pass that leads to an uncontested shot. If the player you pass to has to make 14 moves to score in my opinion that's not an assist.
January 29, 200818 yr To me an assist is making a pass that leads to an uncontested shot. If the player you pass to has to make 14 moves to score in my opinion that's not an assist. I would agree. However, that's why makes it subjective.
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