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8th Region All A Discussion

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I don't know if I'd call Kyle Bennett an excellent coach Mr. Athletics? I think Kyle is a great person with a huge heart, but I'm not sure he has what it takes to get it done. I remember when Walton was once considered a threat in northern kentucky basketball. They had some great teams in the 80's and 90's, but they've only had one great year under coach Bennett, and don't take this wrong I know you have to have the talent to be succesful and WV fights the same battle all small schools battle with lack of talent.

 

Coach Bennett's Career at WV

1998- 6-13 and wins came against teams with combined record of 48-78

1999- 11-13 " " " 49-136(1 team had wiining record)

2000- 9-19 67-115(3 teams had winning record)

2001- 7-21 70-112(no team had winning record)

2002- 12-17 105-137(4 teams had winning record)

2003- 22-6 114-213(3 teams had winning records) Final 4 Class A State

2004- 17-11 122-178(4 teams had winning records)

2005- 8-15 52-107(no team had winning record)

2006- 15-12 71-151(no team had winning record)

2007- 7-7 25-65(Owen only team to this point with winning record)

 

Career 114-134

 

 

I know Walton has a great AAU program with a lot of talent coming up in grades 2-6, and there is some solid player's in the freshman class, and the cottrell boy in the 8th grade has potential to do some great thing if he keeps developing. I guess my question is how long does Bennett get to stick around if he doesn't win with those kid's coming up. I know the WV faithful and they won't stand for mediocrity.

All your seasons are off by one year. Example: the year they reached the All A State Semi's was 2003-04 not 2003 just like this year is 2007-08 not 2007. I also question the accuracy of some of your stats. I only really looked at two years. In the 2003-04 season (that was their great year under Coach Bennett) they had 6 wins against 3 teams with winning records. In the 2006-07 season they had 2 wins against 1 team with a winning record (you reported no wins). I didn't check any other seasons. I agree that Coach Bennett is not an excellent coach but he is an average coach. From the 2003-04 season to now, his record is 69-51. That is not too terribly bad for a small school that focuses more in academics than atheltics. Part of this success is because the boys who played during this period all participated in AAU from an early age. Prior to the 2003-04 players, most did not participate in any AAU when they were youngsters. Also, Coach Bennett has surrounded himself with knowledgeable Asst. Coaches (Ballinger and Sullivan the main two) during this period. He also has a group of compentent middle school coaches who will help develop the boys. He didn't have this in his early years. Additionally, Coach Bennett has to play District and conference opponents and he can't help it if they don't have winning records. This is not his fault. I think with continued AAU participation by the youngsters and a consistent coaching staff from middle school up, we will see more wins in the future. Don't blame Coach Bennett, I think there will be good times ahead.:thumb:

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Madman, My numbers are solid. All this info was gathered through this website. I'm not going to argue wether or not there 100% accurate and I'm sorry I didn't list the seasons in order with both the start and ending year. Apparently you have some kind of compulsive disorder with accuracy, but I won't hold that against you. Your correct when you say Coach Bennett surrounded himself with quality coaches in Ballinger and Sullivan both outstanding coaches and Sullivan pretty much got run out of a job as the assistant because he was an administrator, but don't feed me some bull about Walton-Verona focusing primarily on academics, yes I know certain individuals focus more so on academics, but I attended an AAU session this weekend at Grant Co. and I saw WV 3rd grade coach get a technical foul 3 minutes into the game and his assistant get one at the end of the half. I left and came back 2 hours later to see the WV 2nd grade coach screaming at the other coach over a disagreement on a call made by the official. I know both the 2nd and

3rd grade coach extremely well and consider both to be outstanding competitors.

 

Madman my point is simply that I see the competitive fire in these AAU coaches, but I've watched many of WV Varsity games the past few years and I can't say that I see Coach Bennett ever having that same fire. From what I see he worries to much about the calls he's not getting and he's way to nice to his player's. If my Varsity squad didn't play any harder than these boys have played this year I can guarantee you that my underclassmen would get plenty of playing time. Like I said in my last post, how long will the WV faithful stand for mediocrity. Madman sorry for any spelling errors, sentence fragments, or innaccurate data......

Madman, My numbers are solid. All this info was gathered through this website. I'm not going to argue wether or not there 100% accurate and I'm sorry I didn't list the seasons in order with both the start and ending year. Apparently you have some kind of compulsive disorder with accuracy, but I won't hold that against you. Your correct when you say Coach Bennett surrounded himself with quality coaches in Ballinger and Sullivan both outstanding coaches and Sullivan pretty much got run out of a job as the assistant because he was an administrator, but don't feed me some bull about Walton-Verona focusing primarily on academics, yes I know certain individuals focus more so on academics, but I attended an AAU session this weekend at Grant Co. and I saw WV 3rd grade coach get a technical foul 3 minutes into the game and his assistant get one at the end of the half. I left and came back 2 hours later to see the WV 2nd grade coach screaming at the other coach over a disagreement on a call made by the official. I know both the 2nd and

3rd grade coach extremely well and consider both to be outstanding competitors.

 

Madman my point is simply that I see the competitive fire in these AAU coaches, but I've watched many of WV Varsity games the past few years and I can't say that I see Coach Bennett ever having that same fire. From what I see he worries to much about the calls he's not getting and he's way to nice to his player's. If my Varsity squad didn't play any harder than these boys have played this year I can guarantee you that my underclassmen would get plenty of playing time. Like I said in my last post, how long will the WV faithful stand for mediocrity. Madman sorry for any spelling errors, sentence fragments, or innaccurate data......

It sounds like the 2nd and 3rd grade coaches need to be talked to about their unsporting behavior and their representation of the school. That type of behavior should not be tolerated especially at that level. My goodness, they are only 2nd and 3rd graders, give me a break! Their behaviors are not competitive fire. Their behaviors are unacceptable and should be dealt with by the administration. I've watched hundreds of WV games over the past several years and I can tell you that Coach Bennett wants to win. I've observed some of his practices, he can be real intense and in your face. He tries to make the most out of what he has. Some years have been better than others. Has he made mistakes, sure he has. We all have. Are some people unhappy, sure they are but their are others who support him. Sounds like neither of the varsity coaches have much support at Walton. Maybe that in itself is a problem.

Madman,

WV plays a 4-8 Trimble Co. team tomm. night and it will be disappointing if WV doesn't win by at least 15+. I interested to see what type of strategy Coach Bennett uses against the raiders.

Madman,

WV plays a 4-8 Trimble Co. team tomm. night and it will be disappointing if WV doesn't win by at least 15+. I interested to see what type of strategy Coach Bennett uses against the raiders.

I'm sure he will have them ready to play gearing up for the All A.

It sounds like the 2nd and 3rd grade coaches need to be talked to about their unsporting behavior and their representation of the school. That type of behavior should not be tolerated especially at that level. My goodness, they are only 2nd and 3rd graders, give me a break! Their behaviors are not competitive fire. Their behaviors are unacceptable and should be dealt with by the administration. I've watched hundreds of WV games over the past several years and I can tell you that Coach Bennett wants to win. I've observed some of his practices, he can be real intense and in your face. He tries to make the most out of what he has. Some years have been better than others. Has he made mistakes, sure he has. We all have. Are some people unhappy, sure they are but their are others who support him. Sounds like neither of the varsity coaches have much support at Walton. Maybe that in itself is a problem.

 

I think what he is saying is that it is pretty bad when the second and thrid grade coaches have more fire then the head varsity coach and I can see where he is coming from on that point. Walton can use a big kick in the butt, but who is going to give it to them.;)

Madman, My numbers are solid. All this info was gathered through this website. I'm not going to argue wether or not there 100% accurate and I'm sorry I didn't list the seasons in order with both the start and ending year. Apparently you have some kind of compulsive disorder with accuracy, but I won't hold that against you. Your correct when you say Coach Bennett surrounded himself with quality coaches in Ballinger and Sullivan both outstanding coaches and Sullivan pretty much got run out of a job as the assistant because he was an administrator, but don't feed me some bull about Walton-Verona focusing primarily on academics, yes I know certain individuals focus more so on academics, but I attended an AAU session this weekend at Grant Co. and I saw WV 3rd grade coach get a technical foul 3 minutes into the game and his assistant get one at the end of the half. I left and came back 2 hours later to see the WV 2nd grade coach screaming at the other coach over a disagreement on a call made by the official. I know both the 2nd and

3rd grade coach extremely well and consider both to be outstanding competitors.

 

Madman my point is simply that I see the competitive fire in these AAU coaches, but I've watched many of WV Varsity games the past few years and I can't say that I see Coach Bennett ever having that same fire. From what I see he worries to much about the calls he's not getting and he's way to nice to his player's. If my Varsity squad didn't play any harder than these boys have played this year I can guarantee you that my underclassmen would get plenty of playing time. Like I said in my last post, how long will the WV faithful stand for mediocrity. Madman sorry for any spelling errors, sentence fragments, or innaccurate data......

Not that it makes a difference but it was the 4th grade coach and not the 2nd grade coach.

Sorry you are correct...he coaches both teams....matter of fact I think he coaches about 4 or 5 teams....

I don't believe that getting technical fouls are the appropriate ways of showing the the coach has "fire". He was probably arguing about the official's call. I think coaching his kids and showing emotion with them for good plays is more appropriate. If your definition of "fire" is getting technicals, I completely disagree. At the 2nd, 3rd, 4th grade level, the coaches should be teaching the kids and not arguing with the refs and other coaches. It's not the NCAA Finals!

All I know is if Walton don't correct some things you can take them out of the all A picture completly.

All I know is if Walton don't correct some things you can take them out of the all A picture completly.

In your opinion, what do they need to correct to get back in the All A picture?

Not a good time to be having team chemistry problems.

Mediocrity Madman...I don't approve of technical fouls either, but hey Coach Bennett is nice, that's got to count for something....yes mediocrity

I don't believe that getting technical fouls are the appropriate ways of showing the the coach has "fire". He was probably arguing about the official's call. I think coaching his kids and showing emotion with them for good plays is more appropriate. If your definition of "fire" is getting technicals, I completely disagree. At the 2nd, 3rd, 4th grade level, the coaches should be teaching the kids and not arguing with the refs and other coaches. It's not the NCAA Finals!

I would challange anyone to find a more compentant group of coach's than Walton has at the elementary school level. I don't think that making a habit out of getting technical fouls is appropriate at this level either however, you must consider who got them and where they were playing. Things are obviously pretty tough right now but all of the time and effort spent into developing the entire basketball program will eventually pay off.

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