:lol: You nailed it.

 

I haven't heard that term since John Dean's attorney said it to the Watergate Committee during their questioning of Dean. He said something to the effect of, "What am I here, a potted plant?", when they told him to allow Dean to answer one of their questions, this after the attorney intervened on a question.

 

 

I had forgotten about John Dean until just the other day and I watched the HBO documentary on Mr. Conservative (Barry Goldwater). He was best friends with Goldwater's son and the Senator was a big help and advisor for him standing up and blowing the whistle on Nixon.

Lieberman -- a man who sold out the centrist wing of his party in order to win an election.

 

McCain -- a man who sold out the centrist wing of his party in order to try to win an election.

 

They're both turncoats and they deserve each other.

McCain seems to be picking up a little momentum with recent endorsements in Iowa and New Hampshire.

Most of the endorsements are coming from the media and an acknowledged Democrat. Those endorsements are not going to help McCain much in Republican primaries. In fact, getting endorsements from liberal newspapers may do more damage than good to McCain's chances.

liberal newspapers

 

Most newspapers are owned by giant corporations that are far from liberal (and are destroying the industry by not being agile enough to move into the digital age, but that's another axe to grind at another time).

 

And while the Manchester Union Leader is not owned by a giant corporation, it also is far from liberal.

Most newspapers are owned by giant corporations that are far from liberal (and are destroying the industry by not being agile enough to move into the digital age, but that's another axe to grind at another time).

 

And while the Manchester Union Leader is not owned by a giant corporation, it also is far from liberal.

It is a fact that members of the national media vote overwhelmingly for Demcratic presidential candidates, corporate ownership notwithstanding. The fact that the liberal media likes McCain so well does not work to his advantage. A Boston Globe endorsement is not what a Republican who trying to appeal to the conservative base needs.

Lieberman -- a man who sold out the centrist wing of his party in order to win an election.

 

McCain -- a man who sold out the centrist wing of his party in order to try to win an election.

 

They're both turncoats and they deserve each other.

 

Being anti-war is more conducive to winning elections in Connecitcut so Lieberman's stance on the war was anything but a sellout to win an election. In fact, it cost him an election and forced Lieberman to run as an independent in the general election. "Selling out" is supposed to make the road to success easier, not harder.

 

As far as the positions that McCain has taken contrary to the Republican Party, some I view as principled stances and some I view as grandstanding for the liberal media. An example of the former would be his stance on the treatment of prisoners, and his role as a member of the "gang of fourteen" is an example of the latter.

McCain has shown that he is willing to think for himself, do what he thinks is the right thing, and not stupidly stand with the Republican party to the detriment of the country. I respect his principles and appreciate his willingness to seek reasonable middleground with the Democrats on important issues rather than allow gridlock just for the sake of gridlock.

McCain has shown that he is willing to think for himself, do what he thinks is the right thing, and not stupidly stand with the Republican party to the detriment of the country. I respect his principles and appreciate his willingness to seek reasonable middleground with the Democrats on important issues rather than allow gridlock just for the sake of gridlock.

I would vote for Lieberman for the above reasons.

 

What's funny is that the polls have McCain in the back of the pack among Republican candidates (disregarding Ru). Yet in head to head against Democrat contenders, McCain has the best odds of beating the Democrats.

I would vote for Lieberman for the above reasons.

 

What's funny is that the polls have McCain in the back of the pack among Republican candidates (disregarding Ru). Yet in head to head against Democrat contenders, McCain has the best odds of beating the Democrats.

 

Did you mean to say McCain?

Did you mean to say McCain?

I meant Lieberman. Just reverse the words Republicans and Democrats in your post.

What's funny is that the polls have McCain in the back of the pack among Republican candidates (disregarding Ru). Yet in head to head against Democrat contenders, McCain has the best odds of beating the Democrats.

 

 

What that tells me is that Republican primary voters are apparently willing to cede the election to the Democrats (through their selection of an unelectable candidate) because they can't get over their dislike of McCain's moderate position.

 

Talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

McCain has shown that he is willing to think for himself, do what he thinks is the right thing, and not stupidly stand with the Republican party to the detriment of the country. I respect his principles and appreciate his willingness to seek reasonable middleground with the Democrats on important issues rather than allow gridlock just for the sake of gridlock.

 

I agree.

 

McCain doesn't appeal to the loud, fist-thumping portion of the Republican party, but he's been the most reasonable throughout the campaign. It seems as though he's picked up a bit of momentum lately and may have an outside shot of the nomination if he can win a few of the early states.

I agree.

 

McCain doesn't appeal to the loud, fist-thumping portion of the Republican party, but he's been the most reasonable throughout the campaign. It seems as though he's picked up a bit of momentum lately and may have an outside shot of the nomination if he can win a few of the early states.

McCain doesn't appeal to the conservative wing of the party and no Republican who cannot spark some enthusiasm among the base has a shot at the nomination. McCain is this year's Bob Dole, except Dole avoided bringing the ethics baggage to the table.

 

The spectacular failure of the McCain-Feingold Act to achieve any of its stated objectives is enough to sink McCain's chances. Throw in his membership in the exclusive Keating Five ring and an assortment of less publicized ethical lapses and a McCain nomination has all of the makings of a Democratic landslide.

 

There are plenty of things to like about McCain if you are a member of the liberal media - he is a dead certain loser if he gets the nomination. The few independent votes that he might garner would pale in comparison to the low turnout of conservative voters who vote heavily for the Republican candidates in presidential elections.

McCain has shown that he is willing to think for himself, do what he thinks is the right thing, and not stupidly stand with the Republican party to the detriment of the country. I respect his principles and appreciate his willingness to seek reasonable middleground with the Democrats on important issues rather than allow gridlock just for the sake of gridlock.

 

That was true eight years ago. It is no longer true now.

McCain doesn't appeal to the conservative wing of the party and no Republican who cannot spark some enthusiasm among the base has a shot at the nomination. McCain is this year's Bob Dole, except Dole avoided bringing the ethics baggage to the table.

 

The spectacular failure of the McCain-Feingold Act to achieve any of its stated objectives is enough to sink McCain's chances. Throw in his membership in the exclusive Keating Five ring and an assortment of less publicized ethical lapses and a McCain nomination has all of the makings of a Democratic landslide.

 

There are plenty of things to like about McCain if you are a member of the liberal media - he is a dead certain loser if he gets the nomination. The few independent votes that he might garner would pale in comparison to the low turnout of conservative voters who vote heavily for the Republican candidates in presidential elections.

 

If conservatives won't turn out to, at the very least, vote against a Democrat, then there is no one in this bunch of Republicans that will fire them up enough to get out and vote affirmatively. At least anyone with a chance of winning the nomination. If the die-hard conservative bloc of the party is so powerful then Tancredo would be running away with it.

 

I continue to place Romney at the top of the running but I'll upgrade McCain to having an outside chance of the nomination.