You put your starting QB back in and threw a fly route to Carter 30 yards down field .. it wasn't a short pass. It was a play call designed simply to score again. The situation in the game called for running the clock out plain and simple.

 

I don't care that your team tried to run up the score (failed but tried) just don't act like it was smart play calling leave it for what it was. Why would a team that was trailing by two scores try to run the clock out .. your logic is very very faulty.

 

I can understand the other guys point, trying to pad the QB stats .. or trying to showcase Carter (who is excellent) but don't pretend it was because it was the smart play call. 4:20 to go .. you had ran all over us .. you hadn't punted once ... you were up two scores ... the smart play is to run out the clock.

It was only a 30 yard pass if you add the yards after the catch. They had plenty of room to stop him if they were covering.

The other guy is my little brother and he wasn't at the game and had no clue what he was talking about he was just guessing. I was in the press box so I think I have a better vantage point of the situation.

The coaches made the smart choice not to let BE back into the game, it was BE's job to stop Manual and they didn't, it was not running up the score, both our teams have done that to plenty of other teams before but that is not what was happening there, Bullitt East scored 18 points in the fourth quarter so it was the smart choice for Manual to pad the score to keep from a shoot out in the final minutes. I think since Manual won it was the smart choice if you disagree then fine, either way Manual and their Coaches get the win. Good luck to BE the rest the way.

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I was at the game it was a 20-25 yard pass in the air beyond BE's coverage ..

 

You are right on one point it is BE's fault they didn't stop it but obviously they were keying on the run which is the smart move.

 

Manual padding the score wouldn't have been an issue if they had ran out the clock ... it became an issue because Manual decided to run up the score rather than run out the clock.

 

If you were in the press box and didn't see the play then I am sorry but Carter went on a wheel route down the visitors sideline and your starting QB threw the ball to the 25 yard line where Carter caught it and went in untouched. The orginal line of scrimmage was the 47.

 

You act as if they threw a screen and BE didn't tackle ... the play was ran beyond the coverage of BE and Carter went untouched into the end zone .. understandable since BE was keying on the run.

 

I really don't care that Manual tried to run up the score to make it look like they weren't in a game, but don't pretend it was the smart thing to do. The smart thing to do up two scores with 4 minutes left is to take time off the clock.

 

Okay I'm done because I am 100% right so no point in continuing this discussion.

 

Manual played a great game, too bad they tried (and failed) to run up the score at the end instead of taking a 28-19 win.

Comments and spirited discussion is welcome but personal jabs, to the pm's. Let's get back on the path.....:thumb:

I don't think Manual was trying to run up the score. I think their coach knew that the lead wasn't safe and they needed to score because BE kept scoring.

Not arguing the decision but MH is correct, the pass was caught about 25 yds downfield on a takeoff pattern outside. Manual ran what is commonly called "Waggle Stop" in wing-t where QB fakes playside, boots and stops, throws ball deep backside or to the middle.

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Okay this is my last word on this, I asked a friend of mine who coaches one of the top High Schools in Arizona and here was his take on it ... I can live with this.

 

That's a tough call, I would never do that in that situation, but that is more my philosophy. From their standpoint, it was probably a call worth making to take advantage of BE keying on the run. A nine point lead at that stage of the game was probably safe, but not insurmountable, so they probably felt they needed the insurance. As a Coach, I would not have been upset if I was on the losing end of that score and they did that. I would have been more p***** at our secondary for the coverage lapse. I wouldn't go as far as to say it was smart, just opportunistic, though a Pick certainly would have made it look like a really dumb call.

 

Personally, in that situation I would have just ran the ball, probably went double tights and just pounded it for 4-5 yards a pop and if we scored, we scored.

 

I think BE probably did make them nervous cutting the lead to 9, and they gambled that they could take advantage of your guys selling out against the run. I just have more of a play it safe with the lead style, as less bad things can happen when you run the ball. Plus, I work the hell out of ball security related drills, gauntlet, exchanges, protecting against rips and punches etc...so I am confident we will not put it on the ground. We only lost 3 fumbles all year in nine games, so I guess it pays off. I also never talk about fumbles, never even mention it. All the kids hear is tight tuck, protect the ball in traffic, cover on contact etc, so that's all they have in their minds.

 

Crap I really went off on a tangent, sorry, just love to talk Football

 

To answer your question:

Running up the score - No

Smart play - No

Well calculated risk to put the game out of reach - Yes (remember, that doesn't always make it a smart call, LOL)