Just out of curiosity would you label George B. McClellan a traitor to the Federal government in 1864? He ran against Lincoln with the express purpose to undermine the war effort and get back at Lincoln for his removal.

 

I too think that some of these you mention are deserving of being booted out but it's not like all of this is totally new. Many times Congressmen and people of note have acted less than noble during wartime.

I can't say I'm a big fan of McClellan. Had he had worldwide access to 24/7 news outlets, yes, perhaps his words and actions might have been more harmful to the noble cause.

 

I don't think you need to restrict the ignoble actions of Congressmen and individuals of note to merely wartime, but it is especially despicable then.

Just out of curiosity would you label George B. McClellan a traitor to the Federal government in 1864? He ran against Lincoln with the express purpose to undermine the war effort and get back at Lincoln for his removal.

 

I too think that some of these you mention are deserving of being booted out but it's not like all of this is totally new. Many times Congressmen and people of note have acted less than noble during wartime.

I wouldn't label him as a traitor. I'd label him as a coward. If you know anything about McClellan and the Peninsula Campaign, you'll understand why. You might give him some credit for Antietam, but he outnumbered the Confederates 2-1, AGAIN, yet suffered more casualties. He also lost Harpers Ferry because of his overly cautious ways.

 

McClellan wanted to cease all hostilities and sign an armistice with the CSA. Such a move would have permanently divided the United States.

I wouldn't label him as a traitor. I'd label him as a coward. If you know anything about McClellan and the Peninsula Campaign, you'll understand why. You might give him some credit for Antietam, but he outnumbered the Confederates 2-1, AGAIN, yet suffered more casualties. He also lost Harpers Ferry because of his overly cautious ways.

 

McClellan wanted to cease all hostilities and sign an armistice with the CSA. Such a move would have permanently divided the United States.

 

 

Actually I never thought of him as a coward as much as he was just inept. Antietam should have been a crushing defeat for Lee. Afterall, McClellan had the game plan (the first Bill Belichek) but didn't commit the whole force and gave Lee time to manuever and save his army.

 

The Penninsula campaign was his greatest chance and his slow plodding and paranoia destroyed it.

Actually I never thought of him as a coward as much as he was just inept. Antietam should have been a crushing defeat for Lee. Afterall, McClellan had the game plan (the first Bill Belichek) but didn't commit the whole force and gave Lee time to manuever and save his army.

 

The Penninsula campaign was his greatest chance and his slow plodding and paranoia destroyed it.

 

Gee, are there any modern-day parallels?

Gee, are there any modern-day parallels?

Nope. McClellan's forces outnumbered the Confederate forces by as many as 192,000 to 60,000 or less. Instead of using his overwhelming force to capture Richmond and end the war in its first year, he continually requested more troops, stating that Johnston's forces were far stronger than they actually were. His lack of action may have cost 625,000 American lives over the next 4 years. There were more casualties in 1 day at Antietam than in 4 years in Iraq.