How about this scenario:

There are 25 students in a class, 12 of them boys, none of which have repeated a grade yet. Their school basketball team is very good. Two parents decides to have their boys repeat so they can be even better in basketball. A couple of other parents decide it would be a good idea also. After some discussion 10 of the 12 parents decide to have their boys repeat just so they can play on the same team again together next season. Keep in mind that academically and socially these boys are ready to be promoted and there are a dozen boys in the grade behind them ready to move up also. Are some of you saying that the school has no choice but to somehow let all of those boys repeat? I think the school has a responsibility to say no.

Well, I'll assume that out of those 10 to 12, that none would be ineligible their senior year of HS due to them already being at the upper end of the age spectrum. In that situation, I'd guess the school might say that we cannot accomodate that many new students in that particular grade and then the parents would be left with the decision to make. If they are still in the mind to keep their children back a grade for whatever reason, they could do something else,,,,change schools, homeschool, whatever. I can't say that it would happen that way, I've never heard of that large a # yet don't doubt it's happened. With that said, if the school doesn't have an issue with the 10/12 coming back to repeat the grade and has the capacity to take that large of an influx of new students, sobeit. I stated above that the school should have A say in the matter, just not the final say. If logistics of class size for accomodating kids is an issue, that's an entirely different point.

 

For me, the bottom line is this, if I want my child to repeat a grade, he can. It may not be at the school he currently attends for whatever reason, but he sure can stay back.

Something I don't recall seeing being discussed is, if a student repeats a grade, after they are promoted, doesn't that school loose state funding for that student, for the subsequent year?

 

In a discussion with a DPP, he said yes, school still receives the ADA money.

 

Also, the DPP, said he could not put his finger on the law but his 30-year assumption and understanding of the situation is that the school has final say. He did also say the BEST scenario is that the parents and the school agree on the best route.

 

I would agree with that.

 

For me, the bottom line is this, if I want my child to repeat a grade, he can. It may not be at the school he currently attends for whatever reason, but he sure can stay back.

Now that route, I can agree with you. My point was that I was not sure it could be FORCED onto the school.

The last 15 or so posts seem to have found some (albeit a little) common ground. Way to go!

Something I don't recall seeing being discussed is, if a student repeats a grade, after they are promoted, doesn't that school loose state funding for that student, for the subsequent year?

 

What grade, are you proposing this scenario for, because they can't repeat 7th/8th grade and then play Varsity Basketball again. They must set out that year.

 

 

This happened at Virgie 2-3 years ago, a feeder to Shelby Valley, and happened at Warfiled, a feeder to Sheldon Clark last year.

 

Who says?

 

You cannot play a sport in the same grade twice, once you enter into high school but there is no such rule in middle school unless a BOE states so.

KHSAA has nothing, and I mean absolutely 0, to do with anything under the 9th grade.

This happened at Virgie 2-3 years ago, a feeder to Shelby Valley, and happened at Warfiled, a feeder to Sheldon Clark last year.

 

Who says?

 

You cannot play a sport in the same grade twice, once you enter into high school but there is no such rule in middle school unless a BOE states so.

KHSAA has nothing, and I mean absolutely 0, to do with anything under the 9th grade.

Interesting and perhaps you are right but my interpretation of ByLaw 4 © says, otherwise if playing a Varsity sport, like I stated.

 

Hey, I may be wrong.

 

http://www.khsaa.org/handbook/bylaws/bylaw4.pdf

Interesting and perhaps you are right but my interpretation of ByLaw 4 © says, otherwise if playing a Varsity sport, like I stated.

 

Hey, I may be wrong.

 

http://www.khsaa.org/handbook/bylaws/bylaw4.pdf

 

 

If a kids is in 8th grade and plays Freshmen, JV, or Varsity for any high school they cannot play Freshmen, JV, or Varsity again in that grade but they can play Middle School again in the same grade.

 

If they freshman only in 8th grade and get held back, they can play JV the next year in the same grade, just not freshman.

If a kids is in 8th grade and plays Freshmen, JV, or Varsity for any high school they cannot play Freshmen, JV, or Varsity again in that grade but they can play Middle School again in the same grade.

 

If they freshman only in 8th grade and get held back, they can play JV the next year in the same grade, just not freshman.

I never said anything about Middle School, I said Varsity...."because they can't repeat 7th/8th grade and then play Varsity Basketball again".

 

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Good post and well said.

 

I do have a question for you though.

 

Does the parent have the right to demand a kid skip a grade or two? Do I have the right to take my 10-year-old son and enroll him in HS next year?

 

Apples and oranges...and from a maturity perspective I'd say definitely not.

I never said anything about Middle School, I said Varsity...."because they can't repeat 7th/8th grade and then play Varsity Basketball again".

 

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My bad I mis-read your post

My bad I mis-read your post

No problem and I would guess, many didn't realize this ByLaw existed and applied in this manner.

 

I often have to re-read them myself and still, I'm left wondering what they actually are referring to.

Apples and oranges...and from a maturity perspective I'd say definitely not.

How is it apples and oranges? It is the parents choosing what grade level there child should be in.