No offense ,but by your name could I guess the player called safe at the plate was a Beechwood player ?

Most definitely was Beechwood player, game very poorly umpired, inning before LCA runner on 1st ball hit on warning track centerfielder makes unbelievable catch to right center field umpire never calls out or safe until ball being thrown back in, call was safe but by then runner who had reached 2nd returning to 1st passing batter then forced out at 1st for double play. Wild play but caused by umpire not making call in time. Runner should have probably kept running but the force out at 1st didn't seem to be proper call either, runner was never tagged. Agree batter was out for passing runner. Play at home probably not even argued by Beechwood fans they seemed to shake their heads.LCA had chances to put game away and did not and this is main cause game to be finished Monday.

I will agree w/the game should have been over earlier if BHS would not have went brain dead on the bases and the home plate umpire not being paranoid w/lightening 25 miles away.

 

I was right behind the plate, as I am sure you were, the BHS runner's whole lower leg went between the LCA's catcher's legs and was laying distinctively on the plate. Safe, was the proper call, IMO.

There is no such thing as paranoid when lightining is involved. These are kids and that umpire is liable should someone be struck by lightining. God forbid you have to witness someone being struck by lightning as I have, but I think you'd change your tune. I don't think any of us would be willing to put our names at the top of that lawsuit in order to get the kids back on the field.

 

Regardless, the "lightning rule" is just like any other rule. It is what it is, and we can't ask the men in blue to arbitrarily enforce it. And for the record I thought the same thing as you 3pt, that the runners leg was clearly on the plate. In fact, I honestly didn't think it was that close. And I by no means am a Beechwood fan (in fact, most days I'd just assume see them lose )

There is no such thing as paranoid when lightining is involved. These are kids and that umpire is liable should someone be struck by lightining. God forbid you have to witness someone being struck by lightning as I have, but I think you'd change your tune. I don't think any of us would be willing to put our names at the top of that lawsuit in order to get the kids back on the field.

 

Regardless, the "lightning rule" is just like any other rule. It is what it is, and we can't ask the men in blue to arbitrarily enforce it. And for the record I thought the same thing as you 3pt, that the runners leg was clearly on the plate. In fact, I honestly didn't think it was that close. And I by no means am a Beechwood fan (in fact, most days I'd just assume see them lose )

 

Imagine that. I would hope you cheer for all the NKY teams though when playing an out of region team, this in any sport.

 

As for the lightning(finally spelled right), in my business I am the most cautious person in the area. There are rules and guidelines spelled out for this and as far away as the lightning was when they stopped the game, it did not warrant stoppage. Just because lightning is seen does not mean things must stop. When they finally called the game, it should have been called then. The lightning was right on top of the field at that point.

 

Thanks for agreeing w/the call at the plate. I also don't think it was all that close and Miller's entire lower leg was between the LCA catchers leg and laying on the plate. He beat the throw also!

Most experts feel, Lightning can strike 10-15 miles away, possibly even up to 25 miles or more, from the clouds.

 

I've read considerably on the subject and one of the best phrases..."If you can see it, then flee it"....I'm not sure, how anyone other than a meteorologist, can determine distance lightning is away.

 

Cumulus Nimbus clouds, often are in advance of rain and can produce lighting, in front of an approaching rain storm. Better to ere, on the side of caution.

Most experts feel, Lightning can strike 10-15 miles away, possibly even up to 25 miles or more, from the clouds.

 

I've read considerably on the subject and one of the best phrases..."If you can see it, then flee it"....I'm not sure, how anyone other than a meteorologist, can determine distance lightning is away.

 

Cumulus Nimbus clouds, often are in advance of rain and can produce lighting, in front of an approaching rain storm. Better to ere, on the side of caution.

 

 

 

 

:thumb: Well said. Safety should be first and formost. If you can see it its to close.

Most experts feel, Lightning can strike 10-15 miles away, possibly even up to 25 miles or more, from the clouds.

 

I've read considerably on the subject and one of the best phrases..."If you can see it, then flee it"....I'm not sure, how anyone other than a meteorologist, can determine distance lightning is away.

 

Cumulus Nimbus clouds, often are in advance of rain and can produce lighting, in front of an approaching rain storm. Better to ere, on the side of caution.

Strike3 you are a wealth of knowledge.......I thought you only knew about baseball????

Strike3 you are a wealth of knowledge.......I thought you only knew about baseball????

.... Keep spreading that rumor....and let me know, if anyone believes it.

Most experts feel, Lightning can strike 10-15 miles away, possibly even up to 25 miles or more, from the clouds.

 

I've read considerably on the subject and one of the best phrases..."If you can see it, then flee it"....I'm not sure, how anyone other than a meteorologist, can determine distance lightning is away.

 

Cumulus Nimbus clouds, often are in advance of rain and can produce lighting, in front of an approaching rain storm. Better to ere, on the side of caution.

I agree and will add this:

 

First, if I can say without a doubt that I would not want to be responsible for that lawsuit should something happen. I am not a weather man, and have no authority as such, and would want my kid off the field. Better safe than sorry. I'll guaruantee you that 3pt and myself would be some of the first in line to file that lawsuit had they continued to play and something happend.

 

Second, according to an NCAA umpire who went through a 3 hour "lightning" education class; Players are to be removed from the field at ANY sight of lightning. In fact, to fully protect themselves as umpires they are supposed to clear the field at any sign of thunder as well. I know for years I've seen the men in blue look the other way(especially back in my playing days), but it seems the emphasis has shifted away from that.

Imagine that. I would hope you cheer for all the NKY teams though when playing an out of region team, this in any sport.

 

As for the lightning(finally spelled right), in my business I am the most cautious person in the area. There are rules and guidelines spelled out for this and as far away as the lightning was when they stopped the game, it did not warrant stoppage. Just because lightning is seen does not mean things must stop. When they finally called the game, it should have been called then. The lightning was right on top of the field at that point.

 

Thanks for agreeing w/the call at the plate. I also don't think it was all that close and Miller's entire lower leg was between the LCA catchers leg and laying on the plate. He beat the throw also!

 

Just riling you up a bit with the "cheer for BHS" comment. I always root for NKY in these games. As far as the lightning, I think your dead wrong. See the above post, but to summarize the rules and guidelines are: Any sign of lightning = players leave field(and that includes not seeing lightning but hearing thunder)

As I will agree to disagree. I have cleared the fields many times due to lightning/weather. If it seemed to be such a danger last night when the ump did stop the game, then why did the umps both stay on the field and then proceed to sit in the metal seats. It was so dangerous that not one fan left the metal seats to go to a safer spot. I understand the rules and most definetly have the safety of the kids in mind first but I guess I don't panic at the spotting of lightning as no one else there last night did either.

 

Raider I know your games trying to get me all excited. I would have to say that 95% of the NKY fan base cheers for the NKY teams as long as they aren't playing against their favorite team.

I haven't read it any where else but the Beechwood/LCA game is scheduled for Mon, Apr 30th, 5pm at Williamstown. BHS will stay and try to get another game in w/W'town afterwards.

I dont see why they would want to play Williamstown since they do play Williamstown the next day...

I dont see why they would want to play Williamstown since they do play Williamstown the next day...

 

FYI, the game has been moved up a day!! Conflicts w/LCA playing on Tues so they moved everything ahead one day.