A 30-06 would be a great choice for what you are talking about. As far as accuracy, it will be as accurate as the person pulling the trigger can make it. A 270 would also be a great choice. It would be a little flatter shooting then30-06. Go to Federal Ammunitions website. You can look at the balistics of any caliber they make ammo for, which is just about everyone of them. They will give a really good look at what a bullet does at different distances.

:thumb: Great advice. I really like shooting a 270.

A 270 would be my choice if I were to buying a new rifle.

I have already come to a decision. I have decided to get a Remington 700 SPS in 30-06. I did a lot of research and decided that the 30-06 would be the best choice for an all around rifle for hunting all big game in the continental US.

 

The versatility of the 30-06 was the deciding factor. I can use 165 grain for white tail deer, mule deer, and other like size game. And I can use the 180 grain for moose, elk, and black bear. That with the availability and price of ammo, the cost effectiveness of re-loading, and the reliability of the round just makes it a great choice.

 

And the Remington 700 SPS, is just a great all around rifle - not to pretty, but I don't want it for looks. The 700 is well known for reliability, and accuracy. The 700 action, along with pre 1964 Winchester model 70 and the Mouser action, are universally known as the best bolt actions made. The SPS (special purpose synthetic) is a good choice for hunting. The synthetic stock will not warp, and is water resistant. The SPS also comes with a bead blasted flat blued finish on all metal work, which makes it very durable.

 

So, the 30-06 won out in my book. Please feel free to try to change my mind, that is why I started this thread, I had already decided to get the 30-06 but, thought someone might change my mind.

I have already come to a decision. I have decided to get a Remington 700 SPS in 30-06. I did a lot of research and decided that the 30-06 would be the best choice for an all around rifle for hunting all big game in the continental US.

 

The versatility of the 30-06 was the deciding factor. I can use 165 grain for white tail deer, mule deer, and other like size game. And I can use the 180 grain for moose, elk, and black bear. That with the availability and price of ammo, the cost effectiveness of re-loading, and the reliability of the round just makes it a great choice.

 

And the Remington 700 SPS, is just a great all around rifle - not to pretty, but I don't want it for looks. The 700 is well known for reliability, and accuracy. The 700 action, along with pre 1964 Winchester model 70 and the Mouser action, are universally known as the best bolt actions made. The SPS (special purpose synthetic) is a good choice for hunting. The synthetic stock will not warp, and is water resistant. The SPS also comes with a bead blasted flat blued finish on all metal work, which makes it very durable.

 

So, the 30-06 won out in my book. Please feel free to try to change my mind, that is why I started this thread, I had already decided to get the 30-06 but, thought someone might change my mind.

No way will I try and change your mind Ram, if this is what you have decided on then it is the right choice for you. Imo the choice you made is agood one and everyone has their own preferences.

No way will I try and change your mind Ram, if this is what you have decided on then it is the right choice for you. Imo the choice you made is agood one and everyone has their own preferences.

 

I think the 270, as well as the 308 are great rounds, and I can see why they are so well received. I just wanted to have two guns for everything. My Remington 870 12ga and the Remington 700 30-06. I read an article about this man that had successfully hunted every animal on the Boone and Crockett scoring list with the same rifle. And I thought that was a novel concept worth attempting. I don't know if I will be able to duplicate it, but I have to have the right rifle first. After that the rest is just fun.

I purchased my first deer rifle when I was ten. It was a Ruger M77 bolt action .270. I still deer hunt with it today, twenty years later. However, I purchased a rifle for hunting bigger game a few years ago. It is a Remington 700 .338 Winchester Magnum. It has the knock down power that you want for any big game in North America.

I think the 270, as well as the 308 are great rounds, and I can see why they are so well received. I just wanted to have two guns for everything. My Remington 870 12ga and the Remington 700 30-06. I read an article about this man that had successfully hunted every animal on the Boone and Crockett scoring list with the same rifle. And I thought that was a novel concept worth attempting. I don't know if I will be able to duplicate it, but I have to have the right rifle first. After that the rest is just fun.

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I think the 270, as well as the 308 are great rounds, and I can see why they are so well received. I just wanted to have two guns for everything. My Remington 870 12ga and the Remington 700 30-06. I read an article about this man that had successfully hunted every animal on the Boone and Crockett scoring list with the same rifle. And I thought that was a novel concept worth attempting. I don't know if I will be able to duplicate it, but I have to have the right rifle first. After that the rest is just fun.

 

I think you made a wise and well informed decision, Ram that will serve you well. Maybe it is us that will learn from you.

 

With that in mind, what factors about the .270 and the .308 allowed you to rule them out and go in favor of the .30-06?

 

When I was a kid I had a BB gun that I litterally was never without for about 2 years. I shot about 3 million bbs through that baby and it was like that. I got to the point where I didn't ever think about aiming. I just would point and shoot and it was uncanny how accurate I really got with that gun.

 

The point really drove home with me when I read that article. My BB gun was an old one pump, spring loaded model that had more arc in the trajectory than a half court granny shot. But even at that, I was deadly with it and I could hit anything I wanted to at a second's notice.

 

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I'm told that a crawdad hanging on a clothesline had no chance.

I'm told that a crawdad hanging on a clothesline had no chance.

 

:laugh: You got me there. I'm guilty (and curious).

With that in mind, what factors about the .270 and the .308 allowed you to rule them out and go in favor of the .30-06?

 

With regards to the .308, it is basically the same at the 30-06. The 30-06 is a .308 bullet, just in a shorter case. The reason I chose the 30-06 over the .308 is that the 30-06 is more versatile for larger game. With the 30-06 most people use a 165 grain for deer which is the same as the .308. With this information most would chose the .308 due to its flatter trajectory. But the deciding factor was for larger game you can use a 30-06 180 grain. The .308 case is not large enough for this size projectile. The most common sizes of the 30-06 are 150 grain, 165 grain, and 180 grain, and I have read about a 200 grain. So for deer hunting you could chose the .308 or the 30-06 and never really tell the difference. The deciding factor was for larger game the 30-06 has a little more versatility.

 

As for the .270, I think you could hunt most big game with the .270, but most do not recommend hunting black bear with it. Like I said in a previous post, I want a gun that I can hunt any animal in the US with, and when I was doing research, I would not be comfortable hunting black bear with the .270. I'm not saying that you can not successfully hunt black bear with a .270, it is just that most people do not recommend hunting black bear with the .270. Some do not recommend hunting black bear with the 30-06, but most agree that it is safe to do so.

 

I hope this helps to explain why I chose the 30-06, it may not be for everyone, but I think it is the most versatile round made. And ammunition is very cost effective, and can be purchased basically anywhere.

If you don't mind the kick, and cost of the ammo, can't go wrong with a 7mm. Has better range than most rifles, and everything I have seen shot with one drops immediately. The next rifle I purchase will probably be a 7mm mag. :thumb:

If you don't mind the kick, and cost of the ammo, can't go wrong with a 7mm. Has better range than most rifles, and everything I have seen shot with one drops immediately. The next rifle I purchase will probably be a 7mm mag. :thumb:

 

I have a Remington Model 600 in 6mm, and I can say if the 7mm is anything like the 6mm it has to be a very good round. I have been very happy with my 6mm.

With regards to the .308, it is basically the same at the 30-06. The 30-06 is a .308 bullet, just in a shorter case. The reason I chose the 30-06 over the .308 is that the 30-06 is more versatile for larger game. With the 30-06 most people use a 165 grain for deer which is the same as the .308. With this information most would chose the .308 due to its flatter trajectory. But the deciding factor was for larger game you can use a 30-06 180 grain. The .308 case is not large enough for this size projectile. The most common sizes of the 30-06 are 150 grain, 165 grain, and 180 grain, and I have read about a 200 grain. So for deer hunting you could chose the .308 or the 30-06 and never really tell the difference. The deciding factor was for larger game the 30-06 has a little more versatility.

 

As for the .270, I think you could hunt most big game with the .270, but most do not recommend hunting black bear with it. Like I said in a previous post, I want a gun that I can hunt any animal in the US with, and when I was doing research, I would not be comfortable hunting black bear with the .270. I'm not saying that you can not successfully hunt black bear with a .270, it is just that most people do not recommend hunting black bear with the .270. Some do not recommend hunting black bear with the 30-06, but most agree that it is safe to do so.

 

I hope this helps to explain why I chose the 30-06, it may not be for everyone, but I think it is the most versatile round made. And ammunition is very cost effective, and can be purchased basically anywhere.

 

Thanks Ram, that is good info for anyone considering the same decision. I for one appreciate the inside look into your reasoning. :thumb:

With regards to the .308, it is basically the same at the 30-06. The 30-06 is a .308 bullet, just in a shorter case. The reason I chose the 30-06 over the .308 is that the 30-06 is more versatile for larger game. With the 30-06 most people use a 165 grain for deer which is the same as the .308. With this information most would chose the .308 due to its flatter trajectory. But the deciding factor was for larger game you can use a 30-06 180 grain. The .308 case is not large enough for this size projectile. The most common sizes of the 30-06 are 150 grain, 165 grain, and 180 grain, and I have read about a 200 grain. So for deer hunting you could chose the .308 or the 30-06 and never really tell the difference. The deciding factor was for larger game the 30-06 has a little more versatility.

 

As for the .270, I think you could hunt most big game with the .270, but most do not recommend hunting black bear with it. Like I said in a previous post, I want a gun that I can hunt any animal in the US with, and when I was doing research, I would not be comfortable hunting black bear with the .270. I'm not saying that you can not successfully hunt black bear with a .270, it is just that most people do not recommend hunting black bear with the .270. Some do not recommend hunting black bear with the 30-06, but most agree that it is safe to do so.

 

I hope this helps to explain why I chose the 30-06, it may not be for everyone, but I think it is the most versatile round made. And ammunition is very cost effective, and can be purchased basically anywhere.

I appreciate where you are coming from Ram. Out of personal experience, I rolled a very large black bear with a .270. What I have found is that a .270 and a 06 are very compatable rounds in performance with the .270 being a little flatter. I think the game that neither one are big enough to guarantee a kill against are Moose, Brown Bears, and Polar Bears. That is why I don't think that there is a single North America Round. The 06 is close, but I wouldn't want to hunt any of the animals I just mentioned with it. Like I stated in an earlier post, I chose to go bigger for bigger game. I am very happy with the damage the .338 Win Mag produced with 220 grain balistic silvertips.:thumb: However, I would never hunt deer with the gun.