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Bengals 16 Lions 14 (Preseason Game #1)

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Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Wasn't Brown an All Pro LT with the Chiefs prior to coming to town?

Burrow is another sack away from another injury!

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2 minutes ago, BlueBloodedColonel said:

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Wasn't Brown an All Pro LT with the Chiefs prior to coming to town?

Burrow is another sack away from another injury!

I am not sure on Brown but when the team that knows you the best lets you go, that says something. I understand money is a big part of this equation but based on performance this has been a win for KC and a loss for Cincy.

1 hour ago, theguru said:

I am not sure on Brown but when the team that knows you the best let's you go, that says something. I understand money is a big part of this equation but based on performance this has been a win for KC and a loss for Cincy.

I said it all season last year. Brown needs to lose 25-30 pounds. He is slow. He still weighs 320 if he loses 30 pounds.

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17 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

I said it all season last year. Brown needs to lose 25-30 pounds. He is slow. He still weighs 320 if he loses 30 pounds.

I would have moved on from him.

I guess we cross our fingers.

Who Dey!!

18 hours ago, theguru said:

I am not sure on Brown but when the team that knows you the best let's you go, that says something. I understand money is a big part of this equation but based on performance this has been a win for KC and a loss for Cincy.

KC has been struggling at the tackle position even more since he left. They finally used to use a first round pick on a tackle a year ago, since they were struggling to replace him.

Is he great nope, is he bad nope. The biggest thing to me is it’s a lot easier to get worse at that position, than it is to find someone better than him.

To add on more about Brown at left tackle. Who do you all think they should have or could have replaced him with that would been an upgrade? Keep in mind the Bengals traded their first round pick for Dexter.

Is Brown the weak link on the line? Yeah probably. However, as I mentioned it is a lot easier to get worse at that position than get better if you moved on.

Not to mention a lot of rankings had the Bengals as having a top 10 pass blocking line heading into this season, based off how this 5 performed the second half of last year.

A lot of promising things from last night. I think the rookie class showed really well too.

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On 8/14/2026 at 5:08 PM, futurecoach said:

KC has been struggling at the tackle position even more since he left. They finally used to use a first round pick on a tackle a year ago, since they were struggling to replace him.

Is he great nope, is he bad nope. The biggest thing to me is it’s a lot easier to get worse at that position, than it is to find someone better than him.

On 8/14/2026 at 5:15 PM, futurecoach said:

To add on more about Brown at left tackle. Who do you all think they should have or could have replaced him with that would been an upgrade? Keep in mind the Bengals traded their first round pick for Dexter.

Is Brown the weak link on the line? Yeah probably. However, as I mentioned it is a lot easier to get worse at that position than get better if you moved on.

Not to mention a lot of rankings had the Bengals as having a top 10 pass blocking line heading into this season, based off how this 5 performed the second half of last year.

I just watched that first sack again, Brown's footwork is so slow. I think he is a liability.

From Google/PFF:

Cincinnati Bengals offensive tackle Orlando Brown Jr. finished the 2025 NFL season with an overall Pro Football Focus (PFF) grade of 60.3, ranking 66th out of 89 qualifying offensive tackles.

2025 PFF Breakdown

  • Overall Grade: 60.3 (66th of 89 tackles)

  • Pass Blocking Grade: 62.0 (63rd of 89 tackles)

  • Run Blocking Grade: 59.8 (61st of 89 tackles)

  • Snaps Played: 1,110

  • Pressures Allowed: 46 total pressures (including 9 sacks and 10 hits)

  • Penalties: 10

8 hours ago, theguru said:

I just watched that first sack again, Brown's footwork is so slow. I think he is a liability.

From Google/PFF:

Cincinnati Bengals offensive tackle Orlando Brown Jr. finished the 2025 NFL season with an overall Pro Football Focus (PFF) grade of 60.3, ranking 66th out of 89 qualifying offensive tackles.

2025 PFF Breakdown

  • Overall Grade: 60.3 (66th of 89 tackles)

  • Pass Blocking Grade: 62.0 (63rd of 89 tackles)

  • Run Blocking Grade: 59.8 (61st of 89 tackles)

  • Snaps Played: 1,110

  • Pressures Allowed: 46 total pressures (including 9 sacks and 10 hits)

  • Penalties: 10

So essentially he ranked last out of starting offfensive tackles as there are 64 starting tackles. Yet better than backups based off that. However, it gets back to my question whom should they have replaced him with then? While also keeping in mind how the Bengals leave their tackles on islands more than anymore else.

This is also from Google:

Orlando Brown

Performance and Metrics

  • Volume and Load: Handled the most pass-blocking snaps (733) and one-on-one pass-blocking isolation reps among all NFL tackles tracked by analytics. [1]

  • PFF Grading: Received a 62.0 pass-blocking grade, ranking 63rd among 89 qualifying tackles, while allowing 46 pressures and nine sacks over the course of the season. []

  • Strengths: Utilizes his enormous size, length, and improved vertical set technique to anchor against power rushers and absorb bull-rushes. [1]

  • Weaknesses: Lacks elite lateral agility, making him vulnerable to explosive speed rushers who can bend the edge or force him into committing penalties. [1]

Context and Outlook

  • The Workload Factor: Supporters and Brown himself argue that his raw numbers lack context because the offense left him exposed on an unusually high rate of isolated, one-on-one dropbacks. [1, 2]

Basically what the Bengals ask of their tackles is the hardest in the NFL and isolate them more by themselves than anyone else.

I agree Brown is probably their weak link on the line. I just think we probably would have ended up with someone worse who would struggle even more with what the Bengals want from their tackles.

So it seems the answer may lie more with the Bengals changing their scheme up some to help their tackles a little more especially Brown, rather than replacing him.

6 hours ago, futurecoach said:

So essentially he ranked last out of starting offfensive tackles as there are 64 starting tackles. Yet better than backups based off that. However, it gets back to my question whom should they have replaced him with then? While also keeping in mind how the Bengals leave their tackles on islands more than anymore else.

This is also from Google:

Orlando Brown

Performance and Metrics

  • Volume and Load: Handled the most pass-blocking snaps (733) and one-on-one pass-blocking isolation reps among all NFL tackles tracked by analytics. [1]

  • PFF Grading: Received a 62.0 pass-blocking grade, ranking 63rd among 89 qualifying tackles, while allowing 46 pressures and nine sacks over the course of the season. []

  • Strengths: Utilizes his enormous size, length, and improved vertical set technique to anchor against power rushers and absorb bull-rushes. [1]

  • Weaknesses: Lacks elite lateral agility, making him vulnerable to explosive speed rushers who can bend the edge or force him into committing penalties. [1]

Context and Outlook

  • The Workload Factor: Supporters and Brown himself argue that his raw numbers lack context because the offense left him exposed on an unusually high rate of isolated, one-on-one dropbacks. [1, 2]

Basically what the Bengals ask of their tackles is the hardest in the NFL and isolate them more by themselves than anyone else.

I agree Brown is probably their weak link on the line. I just think we probably would have ended up with someone worse who would struggle even more with what the Bengals want from their tackles.

So it seems the answer may lie more with the Bengals changing their scheme up some to help their tackles a little more especially Brown, rather than replacing him.

I hear you. Can the Bengals change their line strategy to better take advantage of strengths and hide weaknesses?

My other thought is - who in the NFL needs a defensive lineman that has an abundance of offensive tackles?

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